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    Left the battery disconnected for 2 days and nights.
    Still completely dead thereafter.
    I think with your help I almost got it going !
    It was worth a try and with your help I learned quite a lot more about this device.
    Thanks for your excellent help Butters. Gerry

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    You're most welcome. The chip was of course going to eventually fail totally anyway, so flashing attempts would never have resulted in any change because of the partial-failure causing the bootloop. The only way to find that out for sure without JTAG testing the actual hardware is by first assuming a software problem and proceeding as we did (not even Garmin bothers with in-depth hardware testing for warranty-return devices these days). Unsurprisingly, often the faulty chip just gives up completely when a flash is attempted.

    If you can be bothered, strip it for parts because the screen and battery are saleable on ebay, even the case might be worth something along with sought-after bits like the usb socket which can be easily unsweated.

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    Morning all,

    Excuse the technologically challenged question coming, but I am hoping there is a simple answer. I have been scrolling through threads for hours and it all seems above my head or I haven't yet found a the correct thread.

    I have an Alpha 100 unit that a friend has given to us to update, problem is that he didn't tell us it was a US freq and we are in NZ so the latest update disabled the use of the radio features.

    I haven't done anything in the way of curing etc as I have seen several threads of this gone wrong and all of the Perry links and Tramsoft link either dont work now or dont have an Alpha option. All we want to do is roll back the update if possible and give it back to him
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    @CollarRepair

    Garmin was forced to disable this 5 years ago, as their US devices transmit on frequencies prohibited in other countries, like Australia & New Zealand.
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    The last known working firmware was Alpha100_450.gcd.
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    Spoiler: NZ Customs Info
    Certain dog-tracking devices are illegal in New Zealand because they operate on the same radio frequencies as equipment used by people travelling and working in rural areas, such as forestry workers, Department of Conservation rangers, or search and rescue crew. This spectrum is licensed to those operators and must not be used by other devices.

    Legislation: The Radiocommunications Regulations (Prohibited Equipment – Dog Tracking Devices) Notice 2014 prohibits the importation of radio equipment (and their parts) used for, or with the primary purpose of being used for, tracking or locating dogs or other animals that operate in the frequencies 151.820 MHz, 151.880 MHz, 151.940 MHz, 154.570 MHz and 154.600 MHz, including, but not limited to, the following makes and models operating within these frequencies:

    Garmin Alpha 100
    Garmin Astro 220 system
    Garmin Astro 320 system
    Garmin DC 20 collar
    Garmin DC 30 collar
    Garmin DC 40 collar
    SportDOG TEK equipment.
    Before you buy, be sure to check whether the device may be imported, is acceptable for use in New Zealand, and authorised for a radio licence.
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    i have nuvi 52, suddenly once i connected to PC it say need to format the ROM, and i did. since i can access GPS it self, but no sound or other, i had installed map on SD card and worked.

    so i tried the GarminCure3, and now it is totally not working. just boot in garmin logo, tried to rest it it dose not work. i hold lower right nothing happen. i just can keep doing GarminCure3 by cure and original, if cure i can see the ROM, once original nothing happen

    also used RMPrepUSB_Portable,. nothing.

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    Cure firmware allows you to do two other things once Mass Storage Mode is available:
    (i) remove any file which might be causing the boot process to stall;
    (ii) reformat the internal memory properly if required.

    In your case the device is empty as you've already formatted however that format may not be quite suitable. The internal Windows and Mac tools sometimes do not work properly in FAT32 for Garmin devices and if you formatted in NTFS or exFAT the device will appear bricked for sure. Follow this procedure:
    • Load the appropriate RGN Cure3 firmware.
    • Format the internal memory using ONLY RMPrepUSB with the recommended setting here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].
    • Load original RGN firmware
    • Connect the nuvi to Garmin Express to replace as many missing files as possible
    • Load a basemap manually to .System as GE won't offer that. Get gmapbmap.img from here : [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Be aware that some devices may not boot properly if the memory is completely empty. If that happens try first to manually create a folder named Garmin. If still not booting post again.

    PS: Please avoid creating more than one post for the same problem. You'd already opened a [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in discussion section which will now likely go to trash.

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    thanks..the thread i open was for something else, as now i am having another issue.
    what you said i did already, and as you said if i dud the cure i can see the mass storage. but i i reinstall the original i dose not boot or show is connected..
    i did try to keep Garmin folder in it, but still the same, dose not boot. even to do reset it dose not see.
    mine is nuvi 52...

    and what is RGN? is it the .gcd file?

    thanks.

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    just to summary my issue
    1- i had working unit but no maps or voice as each time i plug it say format memory, as i i cannot see the ROM
    2-i did the cure process, and from there the unit is on garmin logo only
    3-i can access via cure and see the rom, i did kept .system file still no boot

    can you support me for the .system files? it should be contains what files? if i connect to garmin app, it dose not see it to update it
    issue if i use cure the original process, i don't see the ROM if i connect the GPS

    thank you one more time
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    An RGN file is not exactly the the same as a GCD file. The latter had some additional data and it's initiated by the device itself on successful booting to update firmware, whereas the former has to be manually flashed in preboot using updater.exe, but other than that the purpose and indeed the contents of the files are similar. The file made by GarminCure3.exe is an RGN file, whether that's as cure or original firmware.

    Before you need to look for addition files (which cannot help you just yet) we need to establish exactly what you've done and in what order. Did you follow what i wrote in post #181? i.e. First load cure fw, then format with RMPrepUSB, finally load original fw. Also where did you get the .System folder, did you make it yourself or load it from a backup? Don't put any files or folders from any source in the memory at first after loading the original fw, if it boots after doing those things i mentioned in correct order just connect to GarminExpress for missing files and then separately load a basemap. If it doesn't boot then manually create an empty 'Garmin' root folder as i said, nothing else for now.

    If you missed doing something or aren't sure what you did then please do it all again in order: load cure RGN fw> format > load original RGN fw > try to boot before proceeding.

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    i did the following as per the document

    1- to do cure, if its ok and nothing is wrong in the mass memory, i need to got to step 3 which is original
    2- i did then the original, and the boot did not come, and stuck on garmin logo.
    3- then i did it again, cure , format , original. still no boot and stuck on the garmin logo
    4-no files in the mass, i created it my self, try all kind of folder, system and garmin, still no boot.

    and i am using gcd file nuvix2andx4_GCDFile__400.gcd, the garmin was working but with no voice or lang, as ROM is not accessible that time, now totally nothing is wroking.
    the unit become totally empty after the original GCD is flashed , and my PC do not see it.

    thanks for you support.

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    is this nuvix2andx4_GCDFile__400.gcd corrct for nuvi 52? can i try older SW? as mine is 4.00.

    can i try Nuvi42_52_SGMY_GCDfile__250.gcd
    it is for nuvi 52 but old
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    i just found GarminDevice.xml, and i changes in it the needed for my GPS
    and once i did it, the Express app see the GPS only on Cure process and identify it. but if i go original SW, nothing is happen. still stuck on Garmin logo
    i tried another PC to do cure > format > original but still same
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    Some devices won't boot if the internal memory is empty, some need at least Garmin folder and some need additional folders such as Voice, Text, Keyboard. An important point that you may be missing is that Cure fw cannot boot, it's sole purpose is to re-enable Mass Storage Mode so that corrupt files can be removed or the proper re-format to FAT32 done using RMPrepUSB. So adding some folders and files that you got from GarminExpress then re-flashing original fw may work.

    However, there is another consideration seeing you raised flashing the SG/MY version of fw and it's very IMPORTANT: Are you certain that you have the US/EU nuvi 52 with HWID 1613? Could it be that you have a localized device with a different HWID, just like SG/MY nuvi 42/52 has HWID 1712 for example? It is possible to flash different fw between devices with the same basic hardware (PCB P/Ns must match) however many non-US/EU devices such as Asian versions use different basic files like Voices for instance.

 

 

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