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    Your issue is related to your testing method, not a skin bug.There is a fundamental difference in how iGO works:Planned Route: The core engine builds a navigation corridor. It knows exactly where you will turn and pre-alerts you based on the database coordinates and exact azimuths (angles).Free Drive (No active route): When you just drive around making chaotic city turns ("left, right, left"), the engine switches to a basic radial/closest proximity search. Due to GPS latency and map-snapping in dense areas, the program cannot match your rapidly shifting course vector with the speedcam's fixed azimuth in time. It sees the camera nearby but drops the linear alert because there is no stable trajectory.If you want to test alerts properly, use a clean profile, a verified database, and simulate a route (Fly over) to eliminate GPS drifting.
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    Hi Andrey,

    No, it’s not related to my testing method; this is a real-world scenario.
    There is a speed camera near my home, located in a village. When leaving my house, there are only two options: turn right or left, then drive straight for 1 km before reaching the camera.
    Every time I head in that direction, I get no alert when using the "World" skin on the head unit (Luna has display driver issues on this Chinese Android head unit).

    I’ve also encountered a similar situation when leaving a supermarket parking. The camera, located 500 meters away, is never warned when I drive off from the supermarket. When I drive along that same road without stopping at the supermarket, it's warned.

    Naturally, I deleted the entire "save" folder, cleared the cache, and reinstalled the APK. I even reduced the speed camera database to just a single camera.

    I tested it with Luna on my mobile phone, and it works fine. That’s why I compared the plugins that handle speed cameras and discovered this difference regarding the iGo flags being used.

    I know Luna doesn't operate exactly the same way as World. However, during a software revision, you often uncover bugs that existed in the previous version simply because you're pushing the testing further. That seems to be the case here.

    I’ve shared the solution I found; it’s up to you what to do with it.

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    🌍 The Geopolitical Trap in Navigation: Why Speedcam Databases Are Split Differently and What It Means for Drivers
    When we download a fresh speed camera (Speedcam) database for our GPS navigator, we rarely think about the logic behind splitting files by country. It seems simple: if you are driving to France, you download the France file; if you are going to Spain, you grab Spain.
    In reality, however, database creators use two completely different approaches to sorting files: the driver-oriented (practical) approach and the geopolitical (official) one. If you happen to download a "geopolitical layout," you are in for some massive surprises.
    Let’s break down the difference and look closely at the second, much more confusing approach.

    Approach #1: Driver-Oriented (The Logic of Common Sense)
    This approach is made by people, for people. It is based entirely on geography and road connectivity.
    If you are driving through Europe, you don’t care who historically owns certain overseas territories. You just need a single file containing the radar data for the places you can physically reach by car. That’s why driver-oriented databases often group files into regional packages: Central Europe, Scandinavia, or the Balkans. This is convenient, logical, and saves your navigator's memory.

    Approach #2: Geopolitical (The Logic of Bureaucrats and the UN)
    This is where things get bizarre. The second approach strictly follows official state structures, international law, and colonial history. Databases are sliced strictly according to legal state ownership, completely ignoring what part of the world the territories are actually in.
    If you download a database built on this geopolitical principle, be prepared for the following "surprises":

    🇫🇷 France with global "tails": When downloading the France file, you get more than just the radars around Paris or Marseille. The creators pack coordinates from overseas territories into the exact same file: Réunion Island (Indian Ocean), Martinique and Guadeloupe (Caribbean), and even French Guiana (South America).

    🇬🇧 The UK and Gibraltar: Would you expect Gibraltar to be in the Spain file since it sits at the very southern tip of the Iberian Peninsula? Think again. In a geopolitical layout, it is hard-linked to the United Kingdom.

    🇳🇱 The Netherlands in South America: Along with Amsterdam and Rotterdam, your navigator will be forced to load cameras from the Caribbean islands of Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba.

    🇺🇸 The US and Guadeloupe (Brand Confusion): Due to the quirks of international classifications or mapping errors, American databases sometimes include unexpected Caribbean points that are legally or economically tied to the region.

    🇺🇦🇷🇺 Ukraine and the Crimea: The sharpest political knot. Depending on the source of the database (international, Ukrainian, or Russian), Crimea can end up in completely different files. If you drive there, you risk getting zero radar alerts if you downloaded a file from the "wrong" jurisdiction.

    ⚠️ What You Need to Know If You Download a Geopolitical Layout
    Bloated file sizes. You might wonder why a file for a seemingly compact European country weighs so much. It is because it contains thousands of points located 10,000 kilometers away from Europe. Your navigation system has to digest tons of "data junk" that is completely useless for your actual road trip.
    The risk of missing radars at borders. Traveling through Europe by car and crossing, for example, from Spain into Gibraltar, you risk going "blind." If you only have the Spain map or file active, Gibraltar's cameras won't trigger—because they are hidden inside the UK file.
    Time zone and encoding conflicts. Navigators sometimes lose their minds trying to match the operating hours of speed cams (like public transport lanes) in Paris with those on Réunion Island. The time difference is several hours, yet the file is exactly the same.

    🏁 The Bottom Line: A Real-World Example
    None of this is just theoretical talk. Anyone who downloads popular custom radar builds faces this exact problem.
    If you have downloaded files split by country under the Hungarian title >>>>>"Országonkénti bontásban"<<<<< by the uploader Cserrobi (also known as Sunnyside Navi), you got exactly this geopolitical layout with all its flaws and quirks.
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