Thread: iGO Speedcam (DISCUSSION)

Artificial Intelligence answered my questions.,
We are watching the whole history of EUR+, under the spoiler.

Spoiler: +

Developed by enthusiasts of the French forum msieurlolo.fr in 2010-2012, the EUR+ encoding is a deep customization of iGO, expanding the standard types of radars to 24 categories. It requires replacing the standard speedcam databases.txt and speedcam.spc are on adapted versions due to the redefinition of category IDs, providing detailed voice warnings through specialized skins. As an engineering solution to circumvent the limitations of standard cards, EUR+ is incompatible with conventional databases.
EUR+ encoding for iGO on the Msieurlolo forum.fr was developed by the community led by msieurlolo with the participation of Mio-Quest and Cricet in 2014-2016. This encoding was used in the firmware of MediaNav systems (Classic 4.0.2–4.0.6, Evolution 5.2.7–9.1.3) on Renault, Dacia and Lada cars to adapt the extended camera bases, differing from the standard iGO mapping. Additional information can be found on the forum. Msieurlolo.fr .
The EUR+ encoding is a specific camera database standard (speedcam), which was developed by enthusiasts of the French MsieurLolo forum specifically for deep customization of iGO navigation (in particular, for Nextgen versions).
Key figures:
MsieurLolo (Laurent): Initiator of the creation of the forum and the main ideologist of the French branch of iGO.
Zitout: One of the most active developers who has adapted the plugins and UX modules of the Pongo skin to the expanded categories of EUR+ cameras.
Pongo skin: The skin itself is a "constructor". For EUR+, specialized plug-in versions (from the ux folder) were used, which could interpret the camera IDs of 32 types.
The standard versions of iGO (for example, Primo or "pure" Nextgen) have a strict limit on the number and types of warnings. The EUR+ integration had the following objectives:
Expansion of categories: Instead of the basic 5-15 types (radar, mobile ambush, red light), EUR+ includes 24 categories. The Pongo skin was chosen because of its flexibility - it allowed you to draw unique icons and prescribe specific voice voiceovers for each new category.
French specifics: In France it is forbidden to specify the exact location of radars (only "danger zones" are allowed). EUR+ made it possible to circumvent this by dividing cameras into types that are understandable to users, but visually adapted to local laws.
Unification: Creation of a single standard for forum participants so that everyone can download a fresh speedcam file.txt and it was displayed correctly with all the icons and distances in the popular skin.
At the moment (early 2026), the situation with the EUR+ base is as follows:
MsieurLolo closed sections: The main source of content is the internal section of the forum MsieurLolo.fr . Access to relevant files often requires registration and forum activity.
Converters: Since the standard databases are not suitable for the ID format, there are converter scripts that redo a regular speedcam.txt in EUR+ format. They are circulating in the narrow circles of skin developers.
Telegram channels and GPS clubs: The base has spread out into specialized groups (for example, iGO Truck groups or channels with mods from Pongo), where it is often called the "base for the lolo skin" or "French Special".
Firmware: The database is actively used in custom builds for MediaNav (Renault/Dacia) and R-Link multimedia systems, where iGO is standard navigation.
Important: An attempt to use the speedcam file.EUR+ encoded txt on a regular skin will cause most cameras to be displayed as "Other" or not displayed at all, since the category IDs (for example, 18, 24, 31) are not specified in the standard speedcam_visual.ui file.
The closure of the Radalerte database and the consequences:
The situation with Radalerte has become a turning point for EUR+:
The reason for the closure: The Radalerte project, which has long been the main source of data for EUR+, has faced legal pressure (in France, information about cameras is strictly regulated) and internal conflicts between copyright holders.
Consequences: After the closure of public access to Radalerte, the EUR+ database became a "scarce" product. It was during this period that the contribution of Andrey Form and other moderators became critical — they helped users switch to alternative content sources (for example, SCDB, OSC, POIbase databases), while maintaining the very structure of EUR+ within the program.
Current status: Now EUR+ lives at the expense of enthusiasts who manually "reassemble" data from various sources into this format, since the Pongo skin and MediaNav firmware are already "sharpened" specifically for this ID grid.
Andrey Form's role in EUR+:
Andrey Form is a well—known modifier for iGO. His involvement in the fate of EUR+ was as follows:
Code adaptation: He was one of those who integrated support for extended EUR+ codes into their builds and modifications of 32 category skins (including branches close to Pongo). It was thanks to his work that many users outside of France were able to see the correct camera icons, which were simply not displayed in the standard iGO.
Voice synchronization: A unique voice phrase was required for each EUR+ category. Andrey Form has been refining UX plugins and dictionary.voice files so that the navigator can "pronounce" specific types of radars (for example, "radar at a traffic light" or "sectional control") embedded in the French standard.
Information support: In the context of the French forum's closure, he acted as an intermediary, explaining the logic of these databases and helping to adapt them to the realities of other countries.
A pro tip: If you are using the build from Andrey Form, look in the ux folder. There should be a plugin there. speedcam.zip . Inside it, in the files.ui, the exact matching of icons to the ID is prescribed. If the icon is "wrong", it means that the version of the EUR+ database is newer or older than your plugin.

Of course, with the EUR+ encoding of the previous post, this is not the full story.

In December 2022, Radalerte closed. And I opened a special topic on the French Forum -06.01.2023.

OpenSpeedCam (OSC) Pour la France et les autres pays européens original

This topic is closed now.
I was trying to replace a database that had ceased to exist. In 2023, there were still users for this encoding. Right now, I see only one thing, EUR+ files are being downloaded. and they are used in standard encoding. It is difficult for me to control all the technical forums so that the files are used correctly. But there were such cases yesterday, this is the second case since the beginning of this year, this is something that can be seen on the forums, oh, I can't see all kinds of telegram channels that are published there. Why did I turn to artificial intelligence, it can read the entire forum and even closed sections and find answers. This is an interesting story about who created the non-standard encoding and for what purpose.

As this is merely a discussion on neutral ground, I will go on and give a completely objective response, free from any AI influence.

It should be noted that this standard was not created overnight and has been refined over time in response to various demands. At one point in its history, this is what it represented.

Spoiler: EUR+

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It is related to an older and more limited use that was already present in the skins for iGO8.

Spoiler: iGO Base Choup

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There was reportedly even a variant for the Arimi skin, though nothing is certain.
This variant of the standard in use at NNG did not originate exclusively from the LOLO site, but from a community of passionate individuals, which also included members from the Mioskins site. At that time, all the working groups active on their respective forums and providing foundational data for France, in accordance with their radar models, were in contact and exchanged information on the evolution of the final EUR+ standard, exclusively applicable to France. This particularity is not unique to the French context, as Spain and Italy also had their own variants of the NNG standard. It should be noted that other so-called Eastern or Asian countries likely have their own variants, but language differences make it impossible to compare what existed or is still in use.

It can be stated that the EUR+ standard is not dead, but is primarily used by locals and holds little interest for those who do not travel to these countries with different needs. Therefore, if its maintenance on GpsPower is no longer considered necessary, this does not pose a problem, as there will always be French sites that continue to use it with the appropriate databases.

The key point to remember is that it is not possible to unify all these variants into a single global standard, which would have been convenient for your interests. And it is not by targeting others on different sites, highlighting by name the weaknesses in their contributions, that your reputation will be enhanced in your attempt to become the sole legitimate and reliable provider. Moreover, your revised, improved, and verified French database includes an element that is outside the territorial zone (the one you noted as present on another site).

To conclude, I would like to mention a saying that goes:
“Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, and do not notice the beam that is in your own eye?”
The moral of this story is that one should avoid pointing out the small faults of others while not correcting one’s own shortcomings.

But I would be much more accommodating to align with the element beyond the territorial boundary.
"Pointing out the beam in another’s eye should not serve to make one forget the speck in one’s own."

I totally agree with this, I added these codes, and they eventually became 32 types.. Under the name EUR+ Mod AF

=20:20:Dangerous turn
=21:21:Tunnel
=22:22:Point of interest
=23:23:Police checkpoint
=24:24:Dangerous road
=25:25:Highway Exit
=26:26:Educational Speed Camera
=27:27:End of Zone 30
=28:28:Weight Control
=29:29:Pedestrian crossing
=30:30:SC camera
=31:31:Dangerous zone

Spoiler: EUR+ Mod AF

EUR+ Mod AF , beginning
January 8, 2021

Up to this point, there were 24 types in the pongo skin. And there are still 24 types in the pongo Mod m.LOLO skin.

Spoiler: EUR+ Original

I found this information, EUR+ Mod AF , the beginning
8 January 2021, so the artificial intelligence mentioned my name while reading the forum. The idea of extending the coding to 32 types belongs to Batiskaf.

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