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    It is clear that you want to take it and use it, but it is better to do it once and then maintain it. Add mobile cameras to the OSC database. The site is ready to accept, store and give the export at any time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrey Form View Post
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    It is clear that you want to take it and use it, but it is better to do it once and then maintain it. Add mobile cameras to the OSC database. The site is ready to accept, store and give the export at any time.
    The problem with that is that while Switzerland is not a huge country, it is still impractical for me to try and drive around all over and try to collect this data. And even more, a bit depressing since it obviously do exist in some form already at SCDB. They just are not providing it in a sensible way.
    And answer is not that I should try and find and enter it all myself...
    But thanks for the suggestion.

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    I don't understand the discussion?
    Switzerland prohibits Radar warning and -POI in the event of very high penalties. So if you still want to behave illegally, you should do it - but not encourage others to help you ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondoan View Post
    I don't understand the discussion?
    Switzerland prohibits Radar warning and -POI in the event of very high penalties. So if you still want to behave illegally, you should do it - but not encourage others to help you ...
    You are of course right that it illegal to use this in your car while driving. And possibly in other ways as well. I wouldn't know.
    But asking others for help with this problem is not illegal. Figuring out how to get some information that SCDB are not making available in a certain form have nothing to do with Swiss law about camera information while driving.

    I just found a strange problem with my navigation system. I wouldn't be surprised if noone have an answer, but I might as well at least send the question out, and maybe I'll get lucky.

    I have a nav system which is OEM. It works just fine, and I have all the data on an SD card that I can play around with. I can certainly change things as much as I want. However, this have got me stumped right now. Speedcam warnings works fine. Overspeed warnings work fine. However, if I get a speedcam warning which also triggers an overspeed warning, that is the last audio warning I will get. After that, I still get the information on the display, but nothing audio. Driving directions by audio still works.

    Have anyone seen anything like this and/or have any idea what to do. Happy to explain things more, test things, or provide additional data if needed.

    I did quite some testing today to confirm this. It's really only when I get overspeed warning and speedcam warning that audio warnings then stop working. Altered the speed limits on the cameras to a very high limit for the time beeing as I prefer to at least get a warning even if I then don't get the correct speed limit.

    Road sections without cameras have their speed limits per the normal database. But even simple overspeed warnings without cameras stop working once I have triggered this "bug".

    And to reply to myself. I think I have figured out the problem. It appears this only happens (for me) when using Swedish TTS. If I use another language all works fine. I suspect it's the actual translation strings that have something broken with the "Reduce speed" message that is supposed to come in the scenario I described above. I also noticed a few other broken translations that contain weird characters, so I suspect it's more of the same.

    So, not much to see here. This has nothing to do with the speedcams as such, and I don't even know how common the language packs are. But I'll try to work out the format of the Swedish language translation files next, and see if I can't fix that. And then all should be good.

    First a quick update. It was indeed missing translations for the voices that caused the audio warning messages to stop working. All sorted now, and everything working the way it should.

    However, I noticed a different problem that I wanted to ask about here. In the SCDB database, the types for cameras are 1 - speedcam, 2 - red light, 3 - red light with speed. However, I noticed that some other documentation says 1 - speedcam, 3 - red light, 11 - red light with speed. And I observe that my nav system is using this second variant of encoding. There are obviously other values than the ones I list here, but it gives you an idea.

    But what is the story here? Is there in fact two almost identical formats for the speedcam.txt file, but which are sortof incompatible, but no hints about which it is? Is there some kind of proper official definition of the file format and the values anywhere? Are there some way of getting the file in the right format for my type? Are there some different names at least for the two variants?
    Right now, I just run through the file and replace values with the ones I need for my system, but obviously it would be nicer if I got it right from the start.

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    This does not mean that you cannot collect this information, the use and storage in the navigator or other means of notification is prohibited by law.
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    For iGO Primo codes

    1 - (32 Speed Camera),
    5 - (33 Mobile Speed Camera),
    2 - (34 Built-in Camera),
    4 - (35 Average Speed Camera),
    3 - (36 Red Light),

    6 - (38 Railway crossing),
    7 - (39 Bus Lane Camera),
    8 - (40 High Accident Zone),
    9 - (41 School Zone),
    10 - (42 Town Entry Point),
    11 - (43 Red Light and Speed Camera),
    12 - (44 Toll Booth),

    13 - (45 Hospital),
    14 - (46 FireStation),

    15 - (47 Congestion Charge Zone),
    31 - (63 Dangerous Area)
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    Default Speedcam file

    Can anyone post the file:-

    "Skin 32 w speedcam- Full VB" for the United Kingdom please?

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    For United Kingdom, no one wants to add cameras to the OSC base.
    there is only Speedcam Average Speed Camera

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    It looks like the data on mobile ambushes is no longer coming into the SCDB database.
    Mobile cameras have not changed since August 5, 2021, and maybe even earlier, I can only compare with the base 2021.08.05.
    Amount 47647 confirms that there are no changes.

    And about the name of the file and its content, it also happens, for example

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    , etc. Something with geography
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    SCDB.info
    Export files Western and Eastern Europe

    Western Europe
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    Andorra
    Austria
    Belgium
    Denmark
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Great Britain
    Greece
    Iceland
    Ireland
    Italy
    Liechtenstein
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Portugal
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

    Missing
    Gibraltar
    San Marino
    Cyprus


    Eastern Europe
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    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Bulgaria
    Croatia
    Czech Republic
    Estonia
    Hungary
    Lithuania
    Poland
    Romania
    Russia
    Serbia
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Ukraine

    Double
    Greece in Western Europe

    Missing
    Belarus
    Latvia
    Moldavia


    Let's follow up, (SCDB.info Export files Western and Eastern Europe) these are not only two incompatible files, but also the absence of some countries.


    with the same name and correct composition, after a little restructuring of the file

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    Western Europe
    Andorra
    Austria
    Belgium
    Cyprus
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Gibraltar
    Great Britain
    Greece
    Iceland
    Ireland
    Italy
    Liechtenstein
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Portugal
    San Marino
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

    Eastern Europe
    Belarus
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Bulgaria
    Croatia
    Czech Republic
    Hungary
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Moldavia
    Poland
    Romania
    Russia
    Serbia
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Ukraine


    AND


    After analyzing the export from the database, it turned out that their geotags have gaps, so the downloaded file may contain cameras from another region and vice versa, in other regions these cameras may not be enough.
    Here is the simplest table where the sum of regional files should be included in the general file.
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    sc%20100000%203

    Of all files only these files
    Asia\Oceania\Benelux\ - correspond to their territorial name and of course the WORLD file, since it contains all the cameras.

    Given the above information, I recommend not to publish the files in the form presented in the SN message,
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    2022 11 08 070847

    direct export without changing the files. If such publications are posted, they should contain information about the inconsistency of almost all files with their territorial name.
    I recommend publishing modified files, All cameras geographically correspond to the file name. Or upload limitedly, only World and Europe.
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