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    I think MMR section it is like SQL DB in topo map. Only nodes if say another words. In NT and NTU version there is equal context but it was compiled differently what is obviously. Thereby proper operation is required a connection between the nodes (MMR) and the main map (GMP) where the main map is NT version.
    May be nodes is given in coordinate and no difference in main map - NT, NTU or previous version. roger1109 may be you can try use this MMR and 2013.10 for experiment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger1109 View Post

    If you have an NT 2013.10 NY, we run a CX NY 2013.20 only MMR, even if the FID is another
    I dont believe it is possible .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giomen View Post
    I think MMR section it is like SQL DB in topo map. Only nodes if say another words. In NT and NTU version there is equal context but it was compiled differently what is obviously. Thereby proper operation is required a connection between the nodes (MMR) and the main map (GMP) where the main map is NT version.
    May be nodes is given in coordinate and no difference in main map - NT, NTU or previous version. roger1109 may be you can try use this MMR and 2013.10 for experiment?


    already tested. MMR works only with NT and not NTU. Not important version 2013.10 or 2013.20 or other

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    It's important version too.
    In MMR files there is the MapID, every tile has a MapID and every MMR contains the MapID of the corresponding tile.
    Different versions=Different tiles MapID= MMR wont work-
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    @ ALL....

    Sono riuscito a fare alcune prove,e purtroppo con risultati negativi. Nel senso che ha ragione chi sostiene che con mappe diverse (anche se non č esattamente il FID diverso la causa).Parliamo comunque della funzione Trasporti Pubblici (EPM)

    1) le CX MMR (small) non funzionano con le NTU,ma solo con le NT

    2) provata mappa CX MMR (small) EU 2013.20 con NT ROMA 2013.20 e funziona perfettamente

    3) provata CX MMR (small) EU 2013.20 con NT ITALIA 2013.10 e NON funziona

    4) provata CX MMR (small) EU 52 cittą 2012.40 con NT ITALIA 2013.10 e NON funziona



    I managed to make some tests, and unfortunately with negative results. In the sense that he is right with those who argue that different maps (although not exactly the FID different cause). Still speak of the function Public Transport (EPM)

    1) the CX MMR (small) do not work with NTU, but only with the NT

    2) Proven map CX MMR (small) EU NT 2013.20 with 2013.20 ROME and it works perfectly

    3) Proven CX MMR (small) EU NT 2013.20 with 2013.10 and ITALY NOT work

    4) CX proven MMR (small) EU 52 cities with 2012.40 and 2013.10 NT ITALY NOT work




    Bye,bye and SORRY......

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    With all of these tests (tanks to roger1109, Giomen, Caty, and to all those who have worked for), surely we all know more
    Bye, Bye

    PS: I belive, now more than ever, that Google Maps is better (for EPM)

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    see about FID and MapID :
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by catymag View Post
    see about FID and MapID :
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    Hi Caty! Do you mean this following (in red) for MapID? Sometimes it's wrongly confused with FID...
    File: D:/GARMIN/CityXplorer NT/Europe 2013.20/CityXplorerEU_2013.20_FULL.img, lunghezza 269762560
    Header: 17.09.2012 13:10:12, DSKIMG, XOR 00, V 0.00, Ms 0
    Mappa: cityXplorerEU 2013.20.img
    fat: 1000h - 1200h - 1C000h, blocco 8192
    mappe: 33, sub-files 34

    Sub-file fat lungh.
    00002694 MDR 7000h 4395595
    00002694 SRT 7600h 981
    00002694 MD2 8E00h 8869
    data 16.07.2012 13:04:49
    000-00000-00
    00002694 TRF A600h 172146
    data 11.07.2012 16:20:57, CP 1252
    I0000A86 TYP 10000h 6409018
    data 18.06.2012 20:13:59, CP 1252, PID 1, FID 2694
    ...
    FIRENZE MMR 10E00h 65066
    mappa 10dc5dc (17679836)
    PID 1, FID 800, regione 1,1
    CP 1252
    LONDON MMR 11000h 13652478
    mappa 10dc59b (17679771)
    PID 1, FID 800, regione 1,1
    CP 1252
    MADRID MMR 11E00h 2832322
    mappa 10dc5fa (17679866)
    PID 1, FID 800, regione 1,1
    CP 1252
    ...
    I10DC5DC GMP 14400h 1327556
    GMP: TRE RGN LBL NET NOD
    mappa 10dc5dc (17679836)
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,4
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,15
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,16
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,20
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,21
    PID 2, FID 2694, regione 1,11
    data 10.07.2012 20:26:25
    draw priority 30, parametri 1 3 17 13
    livelli [18,19,21,23], zoom [83,2,1,0]
    N: 43.835535, S: 43.725929, W: 11.149664, E: 11.343212
    City Navigator Europe Italy Q1/12
    Copyright 1995-2012 by GARMIN Corporation.
    CP 1252, Western European Corrected
    I10DC59B GMP 14600h 8832648
    GMP: TRE RGN LBL NET NOD
    mappa 10dc59b (17679771)
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,7
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,15
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,20
    PID 2, FID 2694, regione 1,15
    data 10.07.2012 20:49:54
    draw priority 30, parametri 1 3 17 33
    livelli [17,18,19,21,23], zoom [84,83,2,1,0]
    N: 52.092962, S: 51.109600, W: -0.076389, E: 0.550861
    City Navigator Europe UK Q1/12
    Copyright 1995-2012 by GARMIN Corporation.
    CP 1252, Western European Corrected
    I10DC5FA GMP 16600h 11628687
    GMP: TRE RGN LBL NET NOD
    mappa 10dc5fa (17679866)
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,6
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,15
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,20
    PID 1, FID 2694, regione 1,21
    PID 2, FID 2694, regione 1,17
    data 10.07.2012 22:49:44
    draw priority 30, parametri 1 3 17 13
    livelli [17,18,19,21,23], zoom [84,83,2,1,0]
    N: 40.922699, S: 39.946718, W: -4.199266, E: -3.064327
    City Navigator Europe Spain/Andorra Q1/12
    Copyright 1995-2012 by GARMIN Corporation.
    CP 1252, Western European Corrected
    ....
    Mappa lungh. s-f CP prio PID FID nome
    ...
    FIRENZE MMR 65066 1 1252 1 800
    LONDON MMR 13652478 1 1252 1 800
    MADRID MMR 2832322 1 1252 1 800
    ...
    I10DC5DC NT 1327556 1 1252 30 1 2694 FIRENZE, ITALIA >ITALY City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    I10DC59B NT 8832648 1 1252 30 1 2694 EASTERN LONDON, ENGLAND >UNITED KINGDOM City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    I10DC59C NT 5970171 1 1252 30 1 2694 NORTHWESTERN LONDON, ENGLAND >UNITED KINGDOM City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    I10DC5B3 NT 12381570 1 1252 30 1 2694 SOUTHWESTERN LONDON, ENGLAND >UNITED KINGDOM City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    I10DC5FA NT 11628687 1 1252 30 1 2694 MADRID, ESPANA >SPAIN City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    ...
    MAPSOURC MPS 1912 1

    Dati MPS
    ...
    L: PID 1, FID 2694, mappa 10DC5DC, (415983 0), FIRENZE, ITALIA >ITALY City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    L: PID 1, FID 2694, mappa 10DC59B, (416198 0), EASTERN LONDON, ENGLAND >UNITED KINGDOM City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    L: PID 1, FID 2694, mappa 10DC59C, (416200 0), NORTHWESTERN LONDON, ENGLAND >UNITED KINGDOM City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    L: PID 1, FID 2694, mappa 10DC5B3, (416201 0), SOUTHWESTERN LONDON, ENGLAND >UNITED KINGDOM City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    L: PID 1, FID 2694, mappa 10DC5FA, (416114 0), MADRID, ESPANA >SPAIN City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2 >City Navigator Europe NT 2013.2
    ...
    Thanks!

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    In small CX map FID is 800 and it's different than CNEU FID, but if MapIds are the same in MMR and in CNEU tiles it works. Conclusion: Small CX must be loaded in GPS with the same CNEU (NT) version with which it has been built, to work
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    May by change MAP ID in NTU map or MMR for experiment on the compatibility? We have tools for that!
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