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    Hi,

    Another trouble with new active routing Topos : when I put several .img in Garmin folder and their corresponding .db files in SQL folder, when I do "Where to go" and then select "trails" on my Montana, only trails from one map are displayed. Has anybody already noticed that ? Is there a clue ?

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    These maps are sold in SDs so they're made to be one per sd. I think outdoor gps can be set with doifferent profiles made like: profile topo Austria ,profile topo Transalpin etc. This way I think you can have all the maps and their trails showing normally.
    Priority in new outdoor gps act differently than before, must use profiles now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catymag View Post
    These maps are sold in SDs so they're made to be one per sd. I think outdoor gps can be set with doifferent profiles made like: profile topo Austria ,profile topo Transalpin etc. This way I think you can have all the maps and their trails showing normally.
    Priority in new outdoor gps act differently than before, must use profiles now.
    that's one theory - which could be right BUT even if I install NOTHING ELSE than the Topo Austria v3 together with its SQL file on an SD, it will NOT highlight those tracks on the montana.

    same problem with profiles ... activating only the topo austria will not highlight anything, as opposed to activating only the transalpine or both - so profiles do not really solve this.

    So there definitely IS a problem that is NOT there with the transalpine ALONE and its also not there if BOTH are on the same card and both activated.

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    This Topo Austria comes directly from Garmin and in download is present a db.unl file.
    Map has been unlocked ,but may be .db is locked somehow.
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    These are my findings so far:

    • When Topo Austria v3 is the only map on SD I can search and find Trails and they are highlighted violet (as usual) when selected. When just looking at the map NO trails are highlighted (red or purple), whatever activity is chosen.
    • Whe I add Topo France v3 on SD I can't find any trail in Austria anymore. Only French trails can be found.
    • I didn't try TransAlpine and Austria together yet but I would expect problems since they are covering the same area partially.
    • Maybe Catymag is right stating these maps are meant to be used as a single product on a single SD card.


    This problem needs more investigation...

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    According to the german garmin forum, more than one db file on an oregon or a montana don`t work.
    The mod has informed the developers about this issue.

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    Can you provide us a link to this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by federbruch View Post
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    okay, so this shows that two SQL files do not work on the same card, and this will be solved by Garmin. So this problem is done as far as I am concerned.

    Leaves us with a problem that has nothing to do with the SQL files in any way, the highlighting in Topo Austria, which strangely seems to be "activated" by enabling the transalpine topo at the same time.....

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    Extensive testing now shows the following for me:

    1. only Transalpine (+SQL) on SD
      • colour highlighting works
      • trail search works
      • this is expected behaviour
    2. only Austria v3 (+SQL) on SD
      • colour highlighting does NOT work
      • trail search works
      • this is NOT expected behaviour
    3. both maps (+both SQL) on SD
      • both enabled
        • colour highlighting works for content of BOTH MAPS
        • trail search only Topo Austria Trails
        • this is expected behaviour for the highlighting and unexpected behaviour for the trail search, but could be explained by a conflict of having two SQL .db files on one card
      • Austria enabled, Transalpine disabled
        • colour highlighting does NOT work
        • trail search only Topo Austria Trails
        • this is NOT expected behaviour for the highlighting
      • Austria disabled, Transalpine enabled
        • colour highlighting works
        • trail search only Topo Austria Trails
        • this is NOT expected behaviour for the highlighting, for trail search see above
    4. both maps (+ ONLY austria SQL) on SD
      • highlighting is EXACTLY the same as with both SQL files
      • trail search is EXACTLY the same as with both SQL files
    5. both maps (+ ONLY transalpine SQL) on SD
      • highlighting is EXACTLY the same as with both SQL files
      • trail search now only for Transalpine
    6. both maps (+ NO SQL FILE) on SD
      • highlighting is EXACTLY the same as with both SQL files
      • no Trails button in search available


    In summary, I found the following things:
    • highlighting has NOTHING to do with the SQL files, they are totally unrelated
    • SQL files are only used for the trail search function
    • the austria SQL file overrides the transalp SQL file
    • you can only use one SQL file on the montana in trail search, how it is determined which one is used I don't yet know, but I'm investigating
    • the topo austria v3 highlighting ONLY works when topo transalpine 2012 is on the same card and enabled as well


    For the SQL file problem, I will look into a possibility of combining the databases in one file and report back once I know more...
    But how do we solve the highlighting problem? Any ideas?

    Since I don't have my original TopoAustria SD Card here right now,

    could anyone confirm if the highlighting works on the original SD

    cause I slowly have a suspicion that this might also not work on the original map.. maybe a bug in the firmware or in the released map?

    For completeness sake, all of this was tested on a Montana 650 with FW 4.20.
    Last edited by MaxDoe; 27th August 2012 at 06:36 PM.

 

 

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