LOL, have you lot been talking about me while i was asleep? Actually it's a 1690 that I have amongst many others, but no 1695. Rog has saved the day because curiously the kb's are different in the 2 models. 1695 files are comparatively quite big, ~50KB in size while 1690's are only about 30KB like most other models. You'd think like most related 4.3' & 5' models the files would be the same, eg. 13xx & 14xx, 34x0/24x5 & 25x5/35x0, 37x0 & 2460 which use the same kb files in related models. Learn something new every day.