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    Quote Originally Posted by fundragon View Post
    I doing GTM35. Applied NUvi 3750 in Thailand... i need Step by step for use
    Yes, it's work. GTM35 is work not fix to the model (if the unit support TMC).

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    Default Brazil Navteq TMC - Too few info

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    I've been using my nuvi 3750 with GMT 25 cable, with Jetmouse subscriptions once a week when I go to São Paulo.
    In my short experience i Notice that there only a few streets monitored by Navteq and every time nuvi sends me to a not monitored street it "thinks" is free but actually it's crowded. Below is a picture of my screen showing the trafic map:

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    If I look to Google maps with traffic info provided by maplink , seems to have more info available, see below a picture at same day and time:

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    Here are also the screens from my device. I don't know if this behavior is correct or there is some problem with my device get less info than the available.

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    Maybe the experts here can give me some advice to improve it ?

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    Rtsouza, its all correct in your signature and configutation, have not how to improve. The comprisement weak is limitation of Traffic Garmin system, well below of others like Google Maps, Maplink (the most complete) but that are only accessible on line by internet (PCs, smartphones, tablets ..)
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    Thanks Angelozip,

    Do you know if this weakness of Navteq data is only here in Brazil or is it global?

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    Funny is that I've been to Navteq presentation of the TMC system here in Brazil like 2 years ago and they announced 4 sources to provide traffic data:

    - Radio Sul America Transito: local (Sao Paulo area) radio which count on listeners traffic info and with Maplink as well);
    - G.E.T.: official traffic management company (pretty shitty info, barely of the main roads);
    - Tracking system: most of private insurance companies install tracking system in vehicles, that info is gathered by Navteq. They mentioned also a 'double check' in order to avoid not to think that a parked car is stucked in a traffic jam;
    - Human: Navteq agents in the main roads monitoring traffic with their own eyes :D

    Seems that is not working the way they promised... what a pity.


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    Do you know if this weakness of Navteq data is only here in Brazil or is it global?

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    NAVTEQ is a global company specializing in maps and related services, but with strong competitors in specific areas in many countries, such as Traffic, for example, locales where it is far from the best. In various of these regions she sub hires local companies to provide traffic information that go feed their databases. But one of the biggest limitations is in the TMC (Traffic Messenger Channel) that use FM radio analogic transmission for traffic data, system used by Garmin and that do not have much to do with the amount of traffic data available on Navteq and other providers. Besides the limitation on comprehensiveness, capacity and speed in baud rate and data updates also have the question of the codes traffic compatible built-in in the map, which further limits comprehensiveness of the system, since the Navteq is not anything agile to update maps, especially in countries on the periphery of your market, as in Brazil.

    To try to overcome these limitations Garmin launched in the United States the HD Traffic system that uses digital radio transmission and considerably surpassed the previous system, but still falls far short of the transmission capacity and updates from data transmitted over broadband Internet. The only advantage these radio diffusion data system is not have cost to use. To overcome such drawbacks Garmin offers services as Traffic by Smart Link, application of recent models of GPS that has bluetooth and allow the online connection data between the phone and gps, but is not a service available in South America, in addition to being paid and also depend of the cellular and broadband internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelozip View Post
    NAVTEQ is a global company specializing in maps and related services, but with strong competitors in specific areas in many countries, such as Traffic, for example, locales where it is far from the best. In various of these regions she sub hires local companies to provide traffic information that go feed their databases.....
    ...in addition to being paid and also depend of the cellular and broadband internet.
    So the conclusion is that TMC is useless !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtsouza View Post
    So the conclusion is that TMC is useless !!!!!
    I would agree with that.

    I have bought the very high priced 3597 with HD traffic thinking the traffic info would be better than the standard traffic in the analogue models. Sadly, that's not the case. The Garmin subscription service as already mentioned is based on your cellphone's internet/data connection. When travelling outside your own country roaming data plans are very expensive so that is not a viable option for many. For within your country, I think you're much better served by subscribing to free twitter traffic feeds and free web based traffic cams then paying for a subscription or traffic service from Garmin. I now won't be bothered trying to get TTN on my 3597.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleCassie View Post
    .......................I have bought the very high priced 3597 with HD traffic thinking the traffic info would be better than the standard traffic in the analogue models. Sadly, that's not the case. The Garmin subscription service as already mentioned is based on your cellphone's internet/data connection. When travelling outside your own country roaming data plans are very expensive so that is not a viable option for many. For within your country, I think you're much better served by subscribing to free twitter traffic feeds and free web based traffic cams then paying for a subscription or traffic service from Garmin. I now won't be bothered trying to get TTN on my 3597.
    That's not actually how the HD traffic info is delivered via the GTM60 HD Digital Traffic Receiver. I think that possibly you are confusing the GSM 'Live Traffic' service via the SmartPhoneLink in Apps on your 3597, with the HD Digital traffic via the HD radio (DAB+) receiver in the GTM60 for which there is no charge. The NA GTM60 also has an OEM Navteq FM TMC subscription on board as well. I've also added a TTN FM sub to my NA GTM60 but i haven't been back to the States to test it but i don't think it will as 1 error is now showing. The Suna FM sub added works in AU though as it also does with GTM26/36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    That's not actually how the HD traffic info is delivered via the GTM60 HD Digital Traffic Receiver. I think that possibly you are confusing the GSM 'Live Traffic' service via the SmartPhoneLink in Apps on your 3597, with the HD Digital traffic via the HD radio (DAB+) receiver in the GTM60 for which there is no charge. The NA GTM60 also has an OEM Navteq FM TMC subscription on board as well. I've also added a TTN FM sub to my NA GTM60 but i haven't been back to the States to test it but i don't think it will as 1 error is now showing. The Suna FM sub added works in AU though as it also does with GTM26/36.
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    That's correct. I was referring to the premium subscription service through SmartPhonelink.

    TTN or Clear Channel does not broadcast in HD so even if you can get the TTN to work on the latest Nuvi's I don't think it's worth the hassle....if you have an older device like I do that already has the TTN code. It's also too bad that you STILL can't force your Nuvi to select which traffic provider through the traffic receiver/antenna. Having said that, it's not really a big deal whether or not you have traffic since most radio stations where they transmit the traffic info normally do not broadcast traffic during weekends or after certain hours.

 

 

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