Typ viewer

**Cnfhbr** · 31st October 2012, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by sherco40

... and the updating of Swedish and Italian file.

What has become of Russian ?

**sherco40** · 31st October 2012, 11:25 PM

Sorry Cnfhbr

I forgot to mention that Russian language have also been updated

Thank you Cnfhbr

**thomasino007** · 4th January 2013, 10:29 AM

Hi there,

Czech lang for your software is here

Have a nice day.

Tomas

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Kanopus · 1st April 2013, 06:40 PM

No matter what I do, I can't save correctly TYP file to TXT format. Always labels are damaged and most national characters are converted to '?'. Even if I change Typ file Code Page to 1252, file is read correctly, but I get damaged labels when saving.

Maybe TYPViewer uses internally CP 1252 but converts texts to system CP, when saving? This could explain why character 'ó' is preserved - it is common to both CP 1252 and my system CP 1250.

This is label that I see in TYPViewer. It is displayed in CP 1252 regardless of TYP file CP, but this is no problem, since text is correct:

3I0rxuC

And this is what I get in TXT file:

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Pity it doesn't work, txt file would be very useful for making bulk changes.

**sherco40** · 2nd April 2013, 04:53 PM

Hi Kanopus

Have you tried to change the font in the viewer (Notepad?) you use to read the text file (because some characters like "Œ" i.e. 0x8C or "¿" i.e. 0xBF do not exist in all fonts...)

Kanopus · 2nd April 2013, 07:21 PM

0xBF is exactly what I need, it is polish character 'Ż' in CP 1250. In CP 1252 it is '¿'. What I get is 0x3F, which is '?'.

I have tried English Windows and finally it worked correctly. So I guess that you use internally CP 1252 (or maybe default LC_ALL "C") and probably you use some function to write text file, which does code page translation. No problem, when system use CP 1252 too, but doesn't work for my Windows with CP 1250.

Other minor problem is that you don't use CP from TYP file in "Visualization" window. This could be connected to write problem, since any editing in this window damages national characters too.

**sherco40** · 2nd April 2013, 07:44 PM

There are several problems and I don't want to confuse all.

First problem : the character "?" :
So can you tell me if I was right when I told you that you must change your font in your text viewer to make "?" disappear?
More precisely: set CP to 1252 and write "Œcie¿ka" in TYPViewer and save to txt. (exactly like you did in your previous post)
Then open your txt with Notepad or other text editor and try different fonts and tell me what you get.

I do think that the characters"?" you get is a replacement character because the character the system must display doesn't exist in the font.
It is not a problem of charset, the character 0xBF is not converted in 0x3F.
The character 0x3F doesn't exist in all fonts. So , if you try to display it in a font in which it doesn't exist, the system (Windows) replace it by a "character of replacement" which is "?" in your system...
Please confirm or infirm that.

Kanopus · 2nd April 2013, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by sherco40

So can you tell me if I was right when I told you that you must change your font in your text viewer to make "?" disappear?

Sorry, what I said was precise. Character 0xBF is changed to 0x3F, I have checked it with hex editor.

Originally Posted by sherco40

More precisely: set CP to 1252 and write "Œcie¿ka" in TYPViewer and save to txt. (exactly like you did in your previous post)
Then open your txt with Notepad or other text editor and try different fonts and tell me what you get.

Somehow I can't get your idea. Why do you expect, that polish editor can't display polish characters with default font? It always does

Originally Posted by sherco40

I do think that the characters"?" you get is a replacement character because the character the system must display doesn't exist in the font.

Again: conversion is done correctly in English Windows. Then I copy txt file back to my Windows and all characters are visible as they should. No fault in my Windows, editor or fonts. This is what I see:

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Originally Posted by sherco40

So , if you try to display it in a font in which it doesn't exist, the system (Windows) replace it by a "character of replacement" which is "?" in your system...
Please confirm or infirm that.

Can't confirm, characters are already wrong inside txt file.

**sherco40** · 27th April 2013, 11:16 AM

Hi kanopus,

OK, for the first problem , the character "?" that appears when the codepage selected in TYPViewer is not the code page of your system:
this problem comes for the RichTextBox control used by TYPViewer to display the text with highlighted words.
This control uses unicode in internal (it converts to unicode the code of the characters you type in , according to the charset selected, i.e. the charset of the typ file) and , when the program (i.e. TYPViewer) reads this text, the RichTextBox tries to convert the unicode value to the value of the same character in the charset of the system. So when it doesn't find the same character in this charset, it displays a replacement character, the quote mark. And this behaviour cannot be changed. I'm looking for a workaround...
Sorry for all my questions, the problem comes from TYPViewer.

For the second problem, there is no difference between 1250 and 1252 codepage in TYPViewer : this my fault, I have forgotten to write the corresponding code for the value 1250, so TYPViewer uses its default value, i.e. 1252

Please try this version [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] , I think that the second bug is fixed, i.e. if you use typ files with codepage 1250 on a 1250 system, I think the txt will be well saved.