If you have the Mapsource version of the map installed on your PC, go to C:\ProgramData(hidden folder)\Garmin\Maps\City Navigator North America NT 2015.10.gmap\ and rename the original TYP file to I0000CFE_original.TYP for backup.
Copy there the file you've downloaded.
Use Mapinstall (or Mapsource, its just for testing the view) to choose some US map tiles to send to your device.
The map is now send using the modified TYP file.
Work is still in progress and this will not be my final TYP, but you can download it and tell us your opinion.
I don't live in US but after so much testing, I've become much better in ....geography
To view or edit the TYP file you need to download and instal [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Tip
Mapsource and Basecamp have cache memory.
If you change the TYP file (or edit it and save it) and open the program, the old colors are shown.
To empty the cache memory change the Detail Level from Highest to Lowest to Highest and the new colors are shown!
The main problems are in CNNA where there are I had to add nonNT polygons for Lakes (and Rivers and Ocean) because the Background was covering them in various zoom levels (highest detail) in Mapsource.
Lakes, river and ocean are not displayed because you have not added them in the draworder (remember, when the draworder is not empty, only the polygons set in the draworder list are displayed)
If you are searching for non NT codes, for water they are : 0x28, 0x32 , 0x40, 0x41 .... to 0x4c . You can find the codes used by Garmin in the file MPCTypes.txt in the main directory of TYPViewer.
After that I can see for example all the big US lakes from 3000 km zoom level and lowest detail !!!
This is the basemap: when you zoom out, the basemap is displayed and not the detail map: your typ file doesn't affect the basemap so you can see your lakes...
Mapsource and Basecamp have cache memory.
If you change the TYP file (or edit it and save it) and open the program, the old colors are shown.
You can install (or change) the typ of a mapset with TYPViewer : after that, TYPViewer will ask you if you want to clear the cache (you can also clear the cache with the command Tools-->Clear Mapsource/BaseCamp/HomePort cache )
To install or change the typ file of a mapset installed on your computer, use the command Tools-->Install a TYP file. In the new window select the mapset and click on "Choose a TYP file". Select on your computer the typ file you want (no need to change its name) , then if PID/FID are not correct, TYPViewer will ask you for according them to the mapset.
To empty the cache memory change the Detail Level from Highest to Lowest to Highest and the new colors are shown!
You can also hit CTRL+G twice in Mapsource/Basecamp (one hit will display the basemap, the second hit will display the detail map again but with the new colors).
the main problems are in CNNA where there are I had to add nonNT polygons for lakes (and rivers and ocean) because the background was covering them in various zoom levels (highest detail) in mapsource.
lakes, river and ocean are not displayed because you have not added them in the draworder (remember, when the draworder is not empty, only the polygons set in the draworder list are displayed)
Bad for you that it seems you didn't bother to download my TYP file, where you could have seen that I've added the polygone's Draw Order you're talking about.
In the spoiler are Mapsource screenshots where you can see, that without the nonNT Lake polygons, I cannot see the Lakes up to zoom 70 KM and "Basemap" is OFF and Detail at highest
Spoiler:
With NO nonNT polygon's Draw Order in the TYP
With nonNT polygon's Draw Order in the TYP
Originally Posted by sherco40
if you are searching for non nt codes, for water they are : 0x28, 0x32 , 0x40, 0x41 .... To 0x4c . You can find the codes used by garmin in the file mpctypes.txt in the main directory of typviewer.
Thanks, I've known the codes for many years, I'm working with Garmins more than a decade, my phd involved some GIS and polygones about Greenways.
I'm also an administrator of the greek garmin forum and I modify TYPs for more than five years. Now you know a little about me...
Bad luck for you that there is no 0x10d01 in the mpctypes.txt. You can check it for yourself if you like, and if you find an entry for 0x10d01, it's about POIs.
Originally Posted by sherco40
Originally Posted by x-trail
After that I can see for example all the big US lakes from 3000 km zoom level and lowest detail !!!
This is the basemap: When you zoom out, the basemap is displayed and not the detail map: Your typ file doesn't affect the basemap so you can see your lakes...
May I was not so clear, I am taking about Mapsource, and Mapsource doesn't have a "Basemap", only devices have...
Originally Posted by sherco40
Originally Posted by x-trail
Mapsource and Basecamp have cache memory.
If you change the TYP file (or edit it and save it) and open the program, the old colors are shown.
You can install (or change) the typ of a mapset with typviewer : After that, typviewer will ask you if you want to clear the cache (you can also clear the cache with the command tools-->clear mapsource/basecamp/homeport cache )
My TypViewer never asked to clear the cache...and of course I know to clear the cache from TypViewer.
But when inside a folder gmap I have 8 renamed TYPs and I want to check them all by renaming them to the default TYP name, do you think that is good to open TypViewer every time and clean cache, or just do it from Mapsource's Detail Level????
Originally Posted by sherco40
to install or change the typ file of a mapset installed on your computer, use the command tools-->install a typ file. In the new window select the mapset and click on "choose a typ file". Select on your computer the typ file you want (no need to change its name) , then if pid/fid are not correct, typviewer will ask you for according them to the mapset.
By install you mean to write the modified TYP file to the map folder on my PC.
Why to do so, when I can double click the TYP file inside its folder, modify it, click save, open Mapsource, clear cache, check new colors.
Only the last few days, I've done this more than two hundred times, how about you???
Because this TYP is very easy to start but what about 10 or more polygone colors, road colors, trail polyline, and above all the map Themes that change the road colors above the polygones, so yes more than two hundred times...
Bad luck that when I try to do like you say, I see in the list less than one third of my maps, and NO CNNA or CNEU anywhere to be found!!!
Originally Posted by sherco40
Originally Posted by x-trail
To empty the cache memory change the Detail Level from Highest to Lowest to Highest and the new colors are shown!
You can also hit ctrl+g twice in mapsource/basecamp (one hit will display the basemap, the second hit will display the detail map again but with the new colors).
Oh really????
Of course I know (since I'm using Mapsource since the time it was called Trip and Waypoint Manager), it's the sixth from the top command in the View menu.
Too bad that is called "Basic Map" and not "Basemap" that exist only in devices.
This "Basic Map" deactivates (at any Detail Levels) polygones and polylines and makes the map simpler, but in case of a gmaptool map, you just see an empty screen.
It is easily forgotten "on" and can drive you crazy, if you don't notice the lower right corner.
So I can live without Ctrl+G, better safe than ...upset!!!
It's better to give advice after you've done some specific testing, and its bad to give advice quoting someone, because its getting personal and annoying.
We're here to help and give advice to other people and try for them things they don't know, and then show them how to do them.
If you look at the time of post #3, I modified the TYP in less than 50 minutes, but that was the start and a lot of testing was needed to make it fully functional. We're taking about two super size maps (NA and EU) with differences between them and a lot of close zoom checking had to be made, put aside the testing on 3 programs and 4 devices, until the results were the same on each and every one of them. Now you also know the story between my posts here.
But anyway, it's late at night, no harm done, no worries and a new testing day is coming!!!
Last edited by x-trail; 30th May 2014 at 02:20 AM.
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