Yeh, figured that it wasn't actually for you Tex, i've seen your excellent posts in iGO. Just messing with you, couldn't help myself ... you know, incongruousness of Texas and Iowa/Windows and Android .. and now i'm boring myself dammit! Anyway you could really be a female uni student from Lahore for all we know ...

But y'know, Windows Phone 8.1 ain't that bad, including the basic HERE nav.They might even get things much better with WP10 if the PC OS 8.1>10 experience is any indication. I rarely use phone-based app for series navigation anyway, mostly dedicated Garmin PNAs. Good luck with Co Pilot for your friend mate.