@carlinux
I take all that on board and in fact did weigh up the opposing opinion, essentially as you've stated, before i made the first post arguing against doing this for all and sundry to see and replicate. Because if kunix assists you blokes with this, a sw patch WILL happen. If it's possible, he can do it i know. A lot of what you've stated is already acknowledged in one or the other of my posts above. You've said:
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My GoldWing has 60 (sixty) buttons on the cockpit and most of them are multi-function. You can ride this bike using, simoultaneously, Navigator, Radio, CB, Compact Disk, MP3 reader, Intercom, looking at nice girls ....
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There are quite enough external dangers and distractions already imo without adding the personally-added [self-inflicted] risk of using navigation buttons and menus while riding.
Sounds similar to me.
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but I think that Noeman is a technical Forum and we are only doing a technical work about firmware and cablings.
I think that knoledge open the street to knoledge and this is the only way the World can grow up. Censorship has never been a solution.
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That's a strong personal opinion and really not a 'moderator' opinion because this forum is all about the free and open exchange of information.
Somewhat similar ideals expressed there too.
Where we do seem to differ is firstly on this: the wisdom of giving inexperienced ppl the opportunity of adding a further distraction into the already myriad ones present when riding a complex machine such as a GW. Let's face it, it is no Vespa. You might call it censorship but that's not at all what i'd call it. To point out the dangers of adding another unnecessarily distracting task into the mix is another 'c' word: Concern. There is an aviation term, "Cockpit Overload". It's especially a problem for students and inexperienced pilots. Too much work and/or distractions and they will start 'load shedding' and sometimes the wrong tasks are overlooked with disastrous results. The very same problems apply to users of ground vehicles which is why there are laws against using mobile cell phones while driving, they are WAY too distracting. GPS's can be just as distracting imo and entering info on the move is really not to different from texting while driving.
The other issue which you didn't address is my concern about the [real or perceived] responsibility not only for your own safety, but for others. In the unlikely event that an experienced GW rider caused an accident [or the more likely event, where you're the victim of some uncaring bike-hating car driver's stupidity], how is it going to look when it's found that you have made an unauthorised modification? Regardless of your protestations that it didn't contribute to the accident, i think you'll find the insurers, and maybe the police, would have a contrary view. If you doubt that, why not contact your insurance company now and ask their view on your intended disabling of the navi's 'safe mode'.
Be assured that i don't take any of your comments personally and i hope you feel the same about mine. I don't think you are uncaring, but i do think that there is a possible human toll for these actions and if it can be avoided then it should be. A test of any 'progress in knowledge' is whether it is for the greater good. If worldwide, only one life is saved or one maiming prevented, by imposing a minor inconvenience on the rest of us, then so be it imo. And let's face it guys, THAT'S why the bl**dy navis are made to be non-operable while moving in the first place. Garmin & Honda knew what they were doing and they also know it wouldn't be popular, even though 'for the greater good'. The cynic in me might say that they didn't want to get sued for NOT including it too. ;)
Finally, i'll reiterate that i said earlier:
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The issue for me is mostly about safety of any inexperienced rider who maybe would think it's ok to disable what is a protective feature [albeit somewhat inconvenient at times]. That's a strong personal opinion and really not a 'moderator' opinion because this forum is all about the free and open exchange of information. In that respect I think it's enough that the other 'darker' side of doing such a modification has been disapprovingly expressed and we can let ppl make up their own minds. If someone wants to cut the speed sense wire or do some other mod, be it on their own head now.
MY personal opinion is "This should stop". The mod in me says "This may not be right but ppl can decide for themselves". Regardless, as a Moderator I will not move this discussion to it's own thread where it will be far more prominent than it is here. But nor will i influence you further as to whether you continue it here. I'm far from the highest power here though and others' actions are out of my control either way.
No hard feelings guys.