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    Quote Originally Posted by pallexl View Post
    Just installed 2011.30, as gmapprom.img + added GMAP3D.img + ASR files, after reboot all works fine, except some of the voice commands cannot be use anymore - are the included ASR files for english only?
    Quote Originally Posted by MikieP View Post
    pallexl,

    Far as I know they are English. Also, might they be different for 8xx vs 37xx nuvi's? I do not know.

    The SRX file and the ASR files are for all supported languages and all supported Garmin devices. One SRX and a bunch of ASR files are updated with the RMU package for the map update.
    We also had a similar discussion before about the SRD files that are language specific.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ballebar View Post
    @MikieP

    There's no updates of SRD-files during a RMU download for City Navigator NT. The RMU package may contain one updated SRX-file and several updated ASR-files.

    SRD-files are handled by WebUpdater which scans the "GarminDevice.xml" file to find out what needs to be updated. I've made a test with a USB stick and a copy of a nüvi 3790T directory structure. Just some small editing in the GarminDevice.xml makes WebUpdater to suggest updated SRD-files.

    SRD section in GarminDevice.xml from a nüvi 3790:
    Code:
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    Lowered the major version number for English_American.srd, English_British.srd and Italiano_.srd:
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    WebUpdater result running with GarminDevice.xml having the lowered versions for 3 SRD files:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballebar View Post
    The SRX file and the ASR files are for all supported languages and all supported Garmin devices. One SRX and a bunch of ASR files are updated with the RMU package for the map update.
    We also had a similar discussion before about the SRD files that are language specific.
    Uh, I'm on deep water here...how do I then match the ASR files included in 2011.30 in the GarminDevice.xml?? (leading to the correct webupdate)


    Hmm, my device current state is that some of the voice commands works fine and some don't - like the "find adress". I have deleted all old asr+srx files and the added the new ones from the 2011.30 package...should I reuse some of the old asr files or?
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    Hmm, my device current state is that some of the voice commands works fine and some don't - like the "find address". I have deleted all old asr+srx files and the added the new ones from the 2011.30 package...should I reuse some of the old asr files or?[/QUOTE]

    Hi,

    Had the same problem when doing my 885T NA CN NT 2011.20 update as well. I installed the ASR initially found files for NA CNNT but they did NOT work. I had to remove those 37xx files (YOU need to backup your \ASR directory up to your machine's hard drive first!) and replace all the .ASR (3) and SRX (1) (NA CN NT) files with the correct ones for the 885T finally located on line (different from the 37xx ones I found out) and that fixed my "Find Address" problems.

    Unfortunately, I have not done the Europa CN NT 2011.30 update to my 885T as yet, just to my 765T but that unit has no voice command function, and because my 885T will not hold both NA and EU with their ASR files internally at the same time so still need to keep the NA CN NT installed with their ASR files. I have heard that the ASR files will function if loaded onto an SD card in the \garmin\asr directory IF the gmapsupp.img loaded on the SD card in \garmin is also loaded since it apparently calls to a lower sub directory for voice function input, but I have not tried that as yet. If you have the 3790, then my guess would be that either you need to remove ALL the old .ASR and .SRX files currently loaded (NOT the .SRD files) and then install the ones found herein in their place and all should be fixed, if indeed the correct ASR files are the ones posted here AND they are the 37xx version. Using the wrong ASR's in my 885T usually told me "function not available in the language or area in use" (or something similar) when Find Address was attempted. Most other voice commands seemed to work ok though.

    MikieP

    Incidentally, just bought and tried out the 3790LMT purchased from Costco yesterday and found the following pluses and minuses when compared to my 885T and returned it today for a refund.

    Plus: Nice screen but seems to scroll on load. Liked the rotation function. Faster search function from the POI's, loud. 8 GB of memory so would hold both NA and EU with ASR's and lots of other stuff nicely. Thinner than 885T. Voice commands no longer requires the use of a steering wheel mounted remote. Simply speak "Voice command" and it comes up. Came with speed POI's built in. Surprised! Slick!

    Minus: No NuLink capability. Bah. Thin, makes power button a minor pain to use. Voice commands do NOT function throughout unit! Huh! Can not seem to get to Tools, and a bunch of other functions using voice. Stupid. Tried to change State using Voice Commands from Illinois to Maryland. Maryland came up on screen as choice 1, touched it, voiced commanded it, no matter what, Not found was the result. Are you kidding me? Not stereo. Same FM cable traffic cables as in the olden days - bulky. Did not try Bluetooth or Traffic functions as the above couple of minuses stopped the test for me. No NuLinks and voice command limitations not worth another $450 on top of my 885T costs ($260 on eBay). Add to that the .GMA issues, and non-trivial changes to the memory structure gave me additional pauses as well. Probably would buy another 885T if mine dies, unless they bring out another voice controlled unit with NuLink and full unit voice command functions.

    Wonder if there is a way to replace the 885T on board 4 GB memory with an 8 GB device? heh heh.

    Mikie{
    Last edited by MikieP; 21st November 2010 at 02:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikieP View Post
    Hmm, my device current state is that some of the voice commands works fine and some don't - like the "find address". I have deleted all old asr+srx files and the added the new ones from the 2011.30 package...should I reuse some of the old asr files or?
    Quote Originally Posted by MikieP View Post
    Hi,

    Had the same problem when doing my 885T NA CN NT 2011.20 update as well. I installed the ASR initially found files for NA CNNT but they did NOT work. I had to remove those 37xx files (YOU need to backup your \ASR directory up to your machine's hard drive first!) and replace all the .ASR (3) and SRX (1) (NA CN NT) files with the correct ones for the 885T finally located on line (different from the 37xx ones I found out) and that fixed my "Find Address" problems.

    Unfortunately, I have not done the Europa CN NT 2011.30 update to my 885T as yet, just to my 765T but that unit has no voice command function, and because my 885T will not hold both NA and EU with their ASR files internally at the same time so still need to keep the NA CN NT installed with their ASR files. I have heard that the ASR files will function if loaded onto an SD card in the \garmin\asr directory IF the gmapsupp.img loaded on the SD card in \garmin is also loaded since it apparently calls to a lower sub directory for voice function input, but I have not tried that as yet. If you have the 3790, then my guess would be that either you need to remove ALL the old .ASR and .SRX files currently loaded (NOT the .SRD files) and then install the ones found herein in their place and all should be fixed, if indeed the correct ASR files are the ones posted here AND they are the 37xx version. Using the wrong ASR's in my 885T usually told me "function not available in the language or area in use" (or something similar) when Find Address was attempted. Most other voice commands seemed to work ok though.

    MikieP

    Incidentally, just bought and tried out the 3790LMT purchased from Costco yesterday and found the following pluses and minuses when compared to my 885T and returned it today for a refund.

    Plus: Nice screen but seems to scroll on load. Liked the rotation function. Faster search function from the POI's, loud. 8 GB of memory so would hold both NA and EU with ASR's and lots of other stuff nicely. Thinner than 885T. Voice commands no longer requires the use of a steering wheel mounted remote. Simply speak "Voice command" and it comes up. Came with speed POI's built in. Surprised! Slick!

    Minus: No NuLink capability. Bah. Thin, makes power button a minor pain to use. Voice commands do NOT function throughout unit! Huh! Can not seem to get to Tools, and a bunch of other functions using voice. Stupid. Tried to change State using Voice Commands from Illinois to Maryland. Maryland came up on screen as choice 1, touched it, voiced commanded it, no matter what, Not found was the result. Are you kidding me? Not stereo. Same FM cable traffic cables as in the olden days - bulky. Did not try Bluetooth or Traffic functions as the above couple of minuses stopped the test for me. No NuLinks and voice command limitations not worth another $450 on top of my 885T costs ($260 on eBay). Add to that the .GMA issues, and non-trivial changes to the memory structure gave me additional pauses as well. Probably would buy another 885T if mine dies, unless they bring out another voice controlled unit with NuLink and full unit voice command functions.

    Wonder if there is a way to replace the 885T on board 4 GB memory with an 8 GB device? heh heh.

    Mikie{
    Thanks for your proposal Mikie, in the meantime my device is a 3790t (EU) and to my understanding the asr and srx files (25) included in this package (2011.30) should replace old asr+srx files - only srd files to be reused from 2011.20?
    Last edited by pallexl; 21st November 2010 at 02:42 PM.

 

 

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