Hi all have been reading the posts and are interesting, so far the Garmin 30 should be sufficient to replace my old Etrex but only 1 of the 2 is slowly dying of screen line pixel disappearance even worse when the batteries are low, but I have a brand new backup that has only been used a few times, so we will see how long I go. Note : I am not a person that has to have the latest or the greatest Techno Gadget on this planet, I have been an Electronic Technician for 43yrs now and have seen technology come and go and this stuff now is not new to me, am just not going out to have the latest and greatest if you know what I mean. Some times the OLD saying KISS "Keep It Simple Stupid" will save dollars and still get you to where you want to go. Just remember if "YOUR OUT THERE" like I am and you rely on your GPS phone make sure it works when there is NO service. ^_^