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Reply With QuoteJust loaded it to a CF card and the 2710 displays the map info correctly on start-up as "ity Navigator Australia & New Zealand NT 2014.20 -" [did you leave the 'C' off on purpose ,kunix? lol] but then the detail map is not shown on the screen, only the built-in basemap is visible indoors with GPS off. I'll let it acquire sats soon anyway, but that wont change anything.Originally Posted by kunix
And is disconcerting ....Ahhh, that make more sense. .......
I know practically nothing about map making, but is it correct that pseudo-NT [quasi-NT] are non-NT? I think that only NT capable devices can use pseudo-NT maps surely.Well, at least pseudo-nt will definitely work, because when they are converted they become regular non-nt maps.
(or is it that pseudo-nt already works in old GPS garmin units?)
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30th September 2013, 12:24 AM #81Member
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Ahhh, that make more sense. Originally Posted by Cnfhbr
Well, at least pseudo-nt will definitely work, because when they are converted they become regular non-nt maps.
(or is it that pseudo-nt already works in old GPS garmin units?)
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30th September 2013, 08:16 AM #83Navigation software Moderator
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When joining the subfiles with GMapTool, I've added " - LITE" to the mapset name, which was too many, so GMapTool truncated the string. Originally Posted by Neil
Well, it was expected. You know, new bitstream formats, etc. Originally Posted by Neil
Wanna try pseudo-NT maps? They look like regular NT, but have "map created with cgpsmapper" string somewhere in copyrights in GMapTool's dump.
In pseudo-NT and NT maps data is stored inside GMP subfiles, unlike non-NT maps, where old good map subfiles are present separately (RGN, LBL, NET, ...). Originally Posted by Neil
The difference between pseudo-NT and NT is how the map data is encoded: NT uses new encoding which is unknown to old devices, pseudo-NT uses old encoding.
We can read pseudo-NT with mapedit, but we can't read NT (only points without addresses are loaded).
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Thanks, i was joking about the 'ity' map [ity-bity, eng slang for tiny].
I'd already tried a pseudo/quasi-NT map made from GMapTool in the 2710 previously, no go. Maybe i didn't do it right, here's what i did:
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No, converting to pseudo-NT was a bad idea, as old devices don't know anything about GMP subfiles. It is the opposite that we need to do, eliminating GMP subfiles.
However, now we can take your pseudo-NT map and convert to non-NT (more precisely, "GMP-free") with process-gmp.
It should work if the original map was non-NT (well, I guess it was, otherwise "convert to quais-NT Format" wouldn't work).
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Could be i'm losing the plot, but really what's the point in taking a non-NT map [which is native to the device] and converting it to pseudo-NT, then making it 'GMP-free'. Even if the end product can be read, it still has the old mapping data from the original Non-NT map ....... am i missing something?
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This time it's just a test. But if it's successful, you would be able to use pseudo-NT maps on your device after process-gmp-ing.
Probably it's not that important for you, but some people have good pseudo-NT maps in their countries.
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But it's not pseudo-NT, it's non-NT. Yes, I can convert it to pseudo-NT, but then the test would be too "syntetic".
Would you be able to test a map of some other area? Like Argentina? (Then I would convert mapear).
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Sure, np. Happy to test anything.
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