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    help Nuvi 50LM Europe not connecting to GE or seen by computer

    Help needed please. My nuvi 50 is working but wont connect to my computer for updates. With advice from Butters for a past issue with another unit, I have tried different computers, cables and checked the physical usb port for damage. I think the issue is probably either a component failure, or a glitch in software preventing any connection. The sd card slot is working ok, so my next attempt is to reinstall the firmware by sd card, but am asking if anyone has an sd card kit already made up and in their possesion that I could use, or if not somone can show me the steps to create one. Ive searched the forum for similar-ish problems but in order to not destroy my nuvi, I just want to be 100 % certain what Im doing with each step. I have a small issue which gives me concentration problems, and so simplicty to do some things is better, if someone can help and keep it easy for me that would be really appreciated. I have a GCD file and an RGN file ready to use.
    My Nuvi 50Lm has...
    SW version 4.00
    HWID 1350

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    You already have the latest firmware (SW V4.00) and even if it was an older version loaded you actually don't have a firmware problem. So, re-loading it via sd card won't help either because corrupt fw really doesn't manifest in any of the symptoms you're seeing. Most likely it's the first possibility you mentioned, i.e. a hardware issue. If you want to confirm that, here's a flash kit to re-load V4.00 via card: (NOTE: Bad file removed - See Post #4)
    There's unlikely to be any change after, but at least it will eliminate fw as the cause from your thoughts and you can concentrate on maybe fixing a hardware fault. Read Butter's post #9 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for troubleshooting and possible repairs for a flaky USB socket.
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    I will try the flash kit you gave me and report back. I have already looked at the physical connection and it looked ok. As a precaution though I have already done as Butters suggested, and re-flowed all the connections and supporting legs and cleaned everything with IPA solvent. All looks good from that part anyway.

    Update. The fw flash did not work. The nuvi turned on, said loading maps, and went on to the operating screen. No mention of updating or loading message on the screen. I know the sd slot works as it reads my personal poi file ok from there.
    The ldr bin in the flash kit did not contain any information, is this this correct ?
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    No, it should be exactly 436,184 Bytes (~426KB). I guess something must have gone wrong with the ZIP compression. I've re-made the file and removed the faulty one from Mega. Try this kit, I've double-checked it: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    As you've re-flowed the USB connections etc., it seems very likely you have a failed component on the PCB. Maybe you're into tracing such a fault and micro-soldering, it's certainly not worth paying someone to do any electronic repair on it. There's also the chance a damaged USB port can seem ok visually but that's rare, if you want to be bothered you could try replacing it.

    PS: I forgot to mention that the SD flash should make a copy of the device's non-vol region (rgn41) into the card's root as "41.bin". Keep a copy of it. It will also remove a gupdate.gcd fw file from the device's .System folder if it exists there. That way you can do any future fw updates via a GCD in a Garmin folder on card, although it's unlikely Garmin will issue any more for nuvi 40_50 series now.
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    Neil, I tried the new flask kit you made and this worked perfectly and installed as you said. It however as you also said that probably wont fix my issue, and you were right. Still wont connect anywhere or appear in device manager. So plan B Please if possible ?
    Can a sd kit with appropriate commands extract the device xml so that I can run the nuvi from the sd card. Also if I can do this and make a poi folder on the card with gpi cyclops speed cameras, will this work instead of reading the older speed camera poi files that will still be left in the unit itself. since there is no way of accessing them to delete. And finnaly can I also do voices folder etc. on the card. I know that maps can run from an sd card but wasnt sure if other things would too.

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    You can use text commands via card to delete, overwrite or add any files to the device's internal memory. Also you can make a copy of individual files, folders or the entire contents of that internal memory back to a media card. Read this thread: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. You can put the XML in a Garmin folder on a FAT32 formatted USB drive to make a 'nuvi clone' and download any file your device is entitled to receive - that works for most older devices with GarminExpress.

    As you're aware, some files such as detail maps and POIs work fine from a card. General rule of thumb is that files and folders which work from the device's internal .System folder will also work from a Garmin folder on a card but naming convention may vary. Other files however such as voice VPMs found in an internal root folder likely won't work from the card, but they can be added and removed by text commands as said above. Same applies to Text, Keyboard and Vehicle. Interestingly, in most devices GPI files don't even need to be in a POI folder on the card, they can be individually scattered around in the root and still found by the device. JCV files must be in a subfolder named JCV in the SD's Garmin folder for sure. Map IMG files can also be in a MAP folder and can be <any_name>.img, same as on the device's internal memory.
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    Ive looked at the thread on running progs from sd card several times and think I understand some of it, and have tried to download everything from the nuvi onto an sd card using Butters instructions. It didnt work, have I missed something out. My plan was to download everthing from the nuvi to find out the device xml file. Here is the way Ive set up the sd card.
    Garmin folder, then inside it updater folder, then inside that 1350 folder, and inside that the text command (as below)
    copydir,0:/,1:/BackUp/
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    Nothing happened. Can you advise again please.

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    @rustybin
    The kit by Garman_Nuvi using cmd "copy,0:/Garmin/garmindevice.xml,1:/Garmin/Updater/1350/garmindevice.xml" will dump a copy of the XML in the 1350 folder. A briefer cmd such as "copy,0:/Garmin/garmindevice.xml,1:/garmindevice.xml" will dump it into the card's root. Keeping the path short minimises any chance of typographical error in compilation as well as a read/write error of execution.

    "copydir,0:/,1:/BackUp/" is indeed the correct txt cmd to dump the entire visible file system into a Backup root folder on the card.

    Provided you have the correct folder layout on your card (Garmin\Updater\1350) with the appropriate update.txt file and Ldr.bin file in the 1350 folder, your cmd of "copydir,0:/,1:/Backup/" should have worked.

    If you reused the card without cleaning it first, i.e. you simply changed the text in updater.txt, you must remove an existing BIN file named "last_id.bin" or the device will ignore the command/s. The is no problem in leaving "update.log" in place however and some devices (but not nuvi 50) even require the file to be present for the flash to work.
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    I downloaded and used your information. With xml in the Garmin folder it was recognised by GE. Ive got a working updated map Nuvi. If I should need this proceedure for another Garmin, will it work if I just substitute the folder number, i.e., 1350 folder changed to the device Im working on e.g 2579, and using the same format/commands ?

 

 

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