Thread: Skin iGO nextgen by pongo (DISCUSSION)

Originally Posted by Andrey Form

After your changes in the skin, nothing works,

You know very well what my changes are, (only the icons), and with this answer I have the confirmation that you don't understand anything and you tick behind the usual answers. You do the same tests with the "original files" and then publish the results ..... and then we have a laugh.

learn how to make changes.

I know very well how to make the changes but I don't want to make them on purpose to get the files closer to the original.

or what I do , mod AF.

You're not the Gospel, even if you think you are.

Alerts in the pongo skin of medium speed cameras work.......

Bla, bla, blaaaaa, repeat the same things over and over, how come by changing only 3 the speedcam.zip I have three different results?

With the same txt file I also did the test with Luna both with the Skin of Pongo and with the Skin of Garigor and everything works perfectly.
I use the same Lang, the same Voice and the changes in the speedcam are the same ..... I only change the icons and I trick the Lang and the Voice with the "translations" by making one thing say for another, but the functioning does not change, The software does not know how to translate certain things in Italian ........

Originally Posted by kwbs

...I could not decipher what the component in front of the arrow is...

TomTom maps in usage

@BIRBANTE
I don't know what you are changing, test the original pongo skin and compare with your tests.

You know, and if not, then I can tell you that the pongo maestro never responds to unsuccessful changes in his skin, all questions to the master are only the original pongo skin without changes.
And also, this entry cannot be put into the pongo skin without violating the algorithm of the cameras:
speedcam_need_approach_beep_on_section_cameras = 1

Originally Posted by Andrey Form

I don't know what you are changing,

Liar, you made a speedcam with my icons, (post#3511) also did you notice that I reversed categories 25 and 28 (because Highway Exit otherwise I would have had it double) and you have not seen that all the other files are original?

test the original pongo skin and compare with your tests.

Why don't you do the tests and publish them?

You know, and if not, then I can tell you that the pongo maestro never responds to unsuccessful changes in his skin, all questions to the master are only the original pongo skin without changes.

Probably someone more important than you communicates my tests to him ... You've been telling me for a week that I was wrong but in the meantime Pongo has corrected the speedcam ....... think as you please .....

And also, this entry cannot be put into the pongo skin without violating the algorithm of the cameras:
speedcam_need_approach_beep_on_section_cameras = 1

But if it was I who told you that I Pongo after having notified it in the plugin.ini of 28-12-2020:

speedcam_need_approach_beep_on_section_cameras=0 ;1=notify distance to the first section camera, bad because it doesn't close the zone completely

why had he insisted on giving the early warning of the Start and the End if he knew it was creating problems?

Do not insist on the terrain of Speedcam tests because I know a lot more than you think ..... I usually do the tests with the original files, then if there are no problems I go to the "transplant" of my icons .. .... I have not updated the Skin of Pongo Nextgen anymore after that of 28-12-2020 ...... it is you who are a master of copy-paste .....

Originally Posted by BIRBANTE

..... I usually do the tests with the original files, then if there are no problems I go to the "transplant" of my icons ..

Spoiler: Test

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Originally Posted by BIRBANTE

The icons in the Big Speedcam do not appear, only the distance and speed appear.

Maybe Pongo will get angry, but I do the tests and say what works and what doesn't ...

The large Speedcam icons do not work after your intervention.
Big speedcam works on original pongo skin, test pongo source files on original.
after your transformation, the icons disappeared from the navigator screen, and write that pongo did it. And what do you mean by that?

Once again, the test videos should be on the original pongo skin without your intervention.
You can do whatever you want for yourself. Any changes, and if you don't like the pongo skin, use another skin.

Originally Posted by Andrey Form

The large Speedcam icons do not work after your intervention.

You are a broken record, you obsessively repeat the same things over and over, it is not the right way to have a confrontation, I have indicated some evidence and you have to show others, without cheating, this is not a duel.

Let's assume you're right, can you explain why the Large Speedcam works in the other 2 videos?
In the first there is the speedcam of 12-4-2021 and in the second there is that of 6-1-2022, (but the same thing also happened with those of 1-9-2021 , 6-9-2021 and 17-11-2021), in the third there is that of 3-2-2022.
In the speedcam files there are no icons, they are all in the speedcam_mod_vb_def.zip, why with three different speedcam files I have three different results?

Big speedcam works on original pongo skin, test pongo source files on original.

Instead of repeating the same things, evaluate the facts. The Large Speedcam to me always work with all categories, the problem was only in the Average Speedcams that did not work well, they disappeared only in the file of 3-2-2022, according to your theory it should never work.

the icons disappeared from the navigator screen, and write that pongo did it. And what do you mean by that?

The dispute is between you and me, I have a great respect for Pongo who is doing a great job and there can be some mistakes, one signals them and he corrects them.
I have dedicated the past year to Luna, and in fact there are no such problems, while all the speedcam of 2021 for Nextgen do not work.
Not everyone uses this particular mode for Average Speedcam, the End stations are known only in Italy, France and Spain, is it possible that no one has noticed it?

You can do whatever you want for yourself. Any changes, and if you don't like the pongo skin, use another skin.

Pongo does not need to be defended by someone like you, on the contrary, it is you who are worsening his image.

@BIRBANTE
And I don’t know for what reason you have a different result, you are testing your modified speedcam.zip files.
For example you don't know the reason and you ask for a test, you should provide a speedcam.txt with the test points and give the start and finish point for navigation, as well as the date of the pongo skin being tested/ In this case, you can confirm or not your tests. To whom it will be interesting, they can help you make a parallel test.

Originally Posted by BIRBANTE

Not everyone uses this particular mode for Average Speedcam, the End stations are known only in Italy, France and Spain, is it possible that no one has noticed it?

medium speed cameras available for all Europe, start and finish 5 km/h
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and here are the changes in the tested modified file

Spoiler: BIRBANTE Mod 23.01.2021

[speedcam_category:3]
activated_spoken_type=speech
activated_speech="Average speed camera in."

warn_distances="00:150"
approach_beep_distances=50
approach_beep_spoken_type=speech
approach_beep_speech="Average speed camera on."

;max_section_time=360 ;360 = ---> average speed zone validity time sec
section_beep_distance=200
section_beep_spoken_type=speech
section_beep_speech="Average speed camera."

say_camera_speed_limit=1
overspeed_spoken_type=speech
overspeed_speech="Reduce your speed."
overspeed_min_speech_repeat_delay=15

skin_first_sound="Tutor_Inizio"
skin_speed_sound_delay=100
skin_repeat_sound="Zona_Tutor"
skin_repeat_distance=250

min_frc=-1
use_road_speedlimit=0

Spoiler: Original skin pongo 28.10.2020

[speedcam_category:3]
activated_spoken_type=speech
activated_speech="Average speed camera ahead."

;warn_distances="130:1500,90:1000,70:550,50:400,30:250" ; ~27 sec before the speedcam
approach_beep_distances=250
approach_beep_spoken_type=speech
approach_beep_speech="Average speed camera."

;max_section_time=360 ;360 = ---> average speed zone validity time sec
section_beep_distance=200
section_beep_spoken_type=speech
section_beep_speech="Average speed camera."

say_camera_speed_limit=1
overspeed_spoken_type=speech
overspeed_speech="Reduce your speed."
overspeed_min_speech_repeat_delay=15

skin_first_sound="Section_Start"
skin_speed_sound_delay=100

min_frc=-1
use_road_speedlimit=1

Originally Posted by Andrey Form

you are testing your modified speedcam.zip files.

My files have the same categories as the original ones, the icons also have the same names, the images change, but the software does not know this and makes section_camera appear, regardless of its image, just respect the size. The real changes concern the Lang and the Voices, but these do not affect the functioning of the program, at least I have the wrong warnings.

you should provide a speedcam.txt with the test points and give the start and finish point for navigation, as well as the date of the pongo skin being tested/ In this case, you can confirm or not your tests. To whom it will be interesting, they can help you make a parallel test.

I do the tests on the way to work, anyone is able through spudigo to create a txt file with 3-4 Average Speedcam sections and do the tests near where he lives, the tests must be done with the txt files and not with the spud files created through the program, sometimes there are read differences.

and here are the changes in the tested modified file:
activated_speech="Average speed camera in."
approach_beep_speech="Average speed camera on."

These lines are only for voice announcements:
Start of an Average Speedcam and You are in an area controlled by an Average Speedcam.

Using the "original" ones there are phrases that can be false, let me explain better, I don't use the Poor Road category, I replaced it with Children's Play Area, if I translate
Poor Road ahead = Children's play area
and if the program wanted to warn me of a Poor Road area I would have the wrong message, that way I can have both.

BIRBANTE Mod 23.01.2021

But I don't update the Pongo Skin for Nextgen from 28-12-2020 ........

I propose to speak about the work of medium speed cameras in the pongo skin. Now it is possible to use the required speedcam.txt to work start and finish 5 km.h. There are many users of the pongo skin. Write how it works for you.

I have no questions to work,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] - speedcam.zip 2022.02.04 Mod AF / Skin Pongo 2021.11.17.
everything works as it should.