thanks for the detailed explanation. I have the gtm25 so it's a normal mini USB or whatever that size is called. Maybe i'll just give the charger to him and he can go down to the store, plug it in, and see what happens.

I also went to another crap store not far from this one only they specialize electronics and big tv's. I saw a 5" garmin in the case and ask to see it. I turn it on and it has a full horizontal row of dead pixels. The guy tells me it's okay and many of his tv's have the same thing and it's not a problem. Hhaha. no wonder his 60" tv's are $500-600.