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    LIVE TEST:

    Unfortunately, it does not work.

    1) Slider set frequencies are displayed correctly, even in the cockpit button, and the button also reads the events, but the slider does NOT store the selected frequency.
    Ex: With 99.7Mhz slider select, exit, I get back in cockpit, after a couple of seconds, NG selects the frequency that is in the background with autoscan, and that slider preset is lost. In essence, NG continues to do so, Autoscan in background, and freq. Saved with a slider not being saved, but deleted by the autoscan working in the background.
    Then the freq. Slider. MUST lock the NG autoscan and immediately save the desired frequency somehow, in real time, on a permanent file eg. In the save ... folder or it can never work, the NG RDS frequencies autoscan overwrites what you store with the slider, erasing the slider frequency.

    2) The FM \ RDS standard range MUST be 87.5Mhz to 108Mhz, and no 60Mhz to 105Mhz!

    3) Use the freq slider. RDS in car seems a bit difficult, or rather, certainly you can not use it while driving. Also, you need to have more accuracy in setting up slider frequencies, with step 2, eg. 87.5 / 87.7 / 87.9 / 90.1 / so follow, otherwise it may be difficult to center exactly the desired frequency and right to receive the TMC.
    The ideal situation would be to have 2 UP and DOWN freq buttons. Moving the slider, not with your finger ... but you wrote that it is impossible to create buttons for the TMC ui...

    4) It is essential to save the selected frequency with sliders on a file permanently until it manually changes from a slider to a other frequency.
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    I write this because for live use, in car, with 2 din, NEVER close NG from its EXIT button, in practice it turns off the car, and NG is immediately shut down from the unit in a "brusque" mode and NO by exit button NG. So if not stores the slider frequency on a permanent file,write in real time, this at the NG reboot, when the car turns on again, the freq. slider will be lost. And NG will make the autoscan, or each you have to use the frequency slider ... so uncomfortable.
    Instead, if the frequency is stored on a file, you have to make sure that NG at the new reboot reads that file, and uses the stored frequency as default, so the slider is its random ONLY when changing frequency, and not every time you launch new session of NG.

    5) The RDS cockpit button overwhelms any other buttons if present in that position while instead it has to fit under existing buttons, automatically.

    Reassess fundamental priorities:
    1) Acting as a slider, locking the NG autoscan frequency, and saving the selected frequency to files in real time (this is crucial, otherwise all the work done for the live slider does not work at all and it does not work).

    2) Every new NG boot, if Hardware Radio is connected, it reads the previously preset frequency from the slider and freezes the NG freq. autoscan, using it as the right frequency to receive RDS\TMC off-line info as read from files .

    Without these two pre-requisites, the offline RDS \ TMC function I think will never work properly.
    I can always test every new live initiative at your disposal...

    Big thanks for all work
    Last edited by Bixo; 14th August 2017 at 01:58 PM.

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    And my work, "home made" USB TMC WinCE hardware (off line use,for 2din WinCE 6.0 unit).

    Spoiler: Photo
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/gl2hnugwdbhjdz5/TMC_M.rar

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    @ frontzosd

    Hello,
    Some possibilities for further development and modification required for the RDS button plug-in for TMC off-line?

    Thanks so much.

    A greeting.

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    It is not only up to plugin, also to driver.
    NO ONE IS A SEER, READ: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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    Many questions become very arduous, a lot of time chewed deja vu...Since we have lost all the year of work and effort, many people have no will to answer the same questions again. Me neither. Use a search, please.

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    Sorry but I did not understand what you mean...

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    Pardon, I wasn't precise
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    Many questions become very arduous, a lot of time chewed deja vu...Since we have lost all the year of work and effort, many people have no will to answer the same questions again. Me neither. Use a search, please.

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    To tell me about my hardware and WinCE 6.0, I solved writing a Mortscript, which loads drivers into Windows folder, and writes in the WinCE registry the appropriate key and word, to emulate a virtual COM in the SO permanently via USB port.
    It was not easy...but it seems to work properly.

    Now my hardware works with WinCE on the COM port emulated on one of the 2 available USB ports of the 2din unit, and scan the FM\ RDS in NextGen correctly,for searching an RDS frequency that transmits the TMC signal off line.
    The problem is to be able to make the plugin as explained above, and frontzosd is on the right path...you should make the changes that I have pointed out, then the off line TMC with NextGen must work...

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    1)the negative point is: that our device after restart doesn't
    Accept the frequency of MHz , which we have given from our slider button!
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    We have already the Model in coding which contains
    The station frequencies
    And I made a function which change these with a button
    But
    With no result!
    Last edited by frontzosd; 25th August 2017 at 12:13 PM.

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    Strange behavior by NextGen!
    It seems like you describe that NG ignores every lock of a frequency chosen by the slider, and decides to do the auto scan.
    Older Igo 8 .3x provided the option with sys.txt to block a desired frequency, apparently in NextGen they changed something in its internal code that does not accept this thing.
    A real problem this ...

    Edit:
    If I remember correctly the first Primo 2.x had the same problem on the lock of a desired x frequency, resolved with the "tmc_fix_frequency_20.zip" that I attach.
    But honestly I did not try the plugin on with Primo 2.x, I just used TMC off line with Igo 8.3.x and my analog hardware for a couple of years, and it was ok, perfect. Always using the GNS protocol.

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    @Frontzosd and all

    I have corrected the range of the FM slider, now it is 87.5Mhz to 108Mhz, but the problems remain the first, NG does not store with the TMC device the value set with the slider.
    I attach the correct version.
    Spoiler: update
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/nn3nvdj1o2ra2s9/Update.rar
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    Last edited by Bixo; 26th August 2017 at 04:37 PM.

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    New update:

    I built a Y cable to connect my RDS\TMC receiver to the original Diversity amplifier antenna for the radio, and 2 din winCE unit (I have BMW cars, which uses invisible antenna drawn in the rear glass).
    With NG I get many FM\RDS broadcasters now, good antenna signal, but I have to use TMC free, in Italy only the RAI radio (National broadcaster) releases TMC infos free, on 3 different FM\RDS stations but they do not always have a very good signal strong, unfortunately... and for the only radio broadcaster (paid, name "InfoBlu") I have the two *.tmc files (attached) but with NG WinCE there is a specific license, that I do not have and can not find. If someone owns it , please upload it !!!
    Note: I tried ALL licenses in the full package here on the forum, but did not activate the two *.tmc files for Italy.
    The real problem is the autoscan frequencies that do not stop as already written ... I hope Frontzosd fixes this with its plugin.
    Everything else works, and therefore theoretically every user using NextGen WinCE, with my hardware, USB to COM emulated drivers that I wrote, and gns\dll right in NG, might have off-line TMC info with WinCE 6.0 and 2 din unit.
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