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    This zip is for Android and Windows CE!

    Enable Auto RDS:

    Auto--->means:

    (If we have RDS signal, or RDS hardware, All the section about RDS works!)
    --This means, if we put the tmc.zip in Android device,
    Or in windows CE , WITHOUT RDS signal- RDS hardware
    All the buttons, AND mechanisms about RDS disabled(disappeared)

    ENABLE RDS --> MEANS: RDS function works EVERYWHERE!
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    this means that our device finds if we have (RDS signal
    And all about RDS) or not

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    The last 2 photos is from Android device + Auto Mode:
    Here we don't have( RDS packet).
    So us we can see, everything about RDS is disabled!

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    For RDS use with WinCE, then keep the flag with "RDS Enable!" , Ok?
    I'll also try zip of Plugin-POST # 101...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixo View Post
    For RDS use with WinCE, then keep the flag with "RDS Enable!" , Ok?
    I'll also try zip of Plugin-POST # 101...
    For (Win CE , with RDS services!) Users,
    The correct is Auto..

    This is a good info point , that you have RDS signal
    Etc!
    If you don't have a "completed packet of RDS services"
    Then RDS buttons, which I have made, disabled!
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    Also: for the rest users ( windows CE without RDS or Android users)
    The correct is auto..
    Because , they DONT NEED RDS buttons!

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    For the users who want to see how this mechanism
    Works , or for me who wants to check it
    (And I have ONLY android device)
    I need the "enable RDS" mode..!!

    I hope that you understand it!

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    Give these in your sys:

    [tmc]
    test_fixedstation_time=2
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    Please, you have to add these two things (we always say with the new first post-plugin of yesterday for all user, let's always lose old stuff).

    1) auto scan after typing frequency from osk lock not immediately, but after 10 seconds (so if within the TMC screen the enable button is green, and becomes blue after 10 seconds, activates lock autoscan)
    2) Add a new option to TMC setup if you want to have autoscan lock function after typing from osk yes or no.

    So I can do a lot of tests, and see if your lock autoscan function after switching off from osk locks the RDS\TMC data stream with my device and NG.

    When I did the photos,in the old releases, there was no automatic autoscan lock after osk, so I want to have the chance in future tests to try with or without that function what changes ...

    You can do it?

    Ok for RDS flag,I set to Auto!
    I will add the new key above in the sys.

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    I add that if I read the RDS station "Rai3 99.6mhz" does not mean that the signal is 100%.
    Also, to have TMC info from an RDS signal (RDS signal work in the segment of one FM frequency of 57Khz) full signal is needed to 100%, otherwise data packets that extract TMC info from RDS segments will be lost.
    I remember that with the old igo 8.3, the slider I understood the power of the signal even though I read the RDS name, but the slider was for example 50%, NO TMC info.
    In the future it is necessary to implement the signal slider, it is very useful for RDS\TMC!
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    OK different philosophy in plug_#105
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    1)Green button means : manual RDS - Disabled Auto scan
    Enabled frequencies keyboard , for to type frequencies

    2)Blue button: Means :Auto scan- disabled frequencies keyboard !

    So we need always Green
    Because Blue means= Auto Scan


    I will add RDS signal db only if it supported!

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    @Frontzosd
    Test live new plugin:

    Enable autoscan button (Blue):
    allows the autoscan (RDS 99.6 frequency reference) but still oscillates as always, example 99.6-> after 2 seconds 99.7-> after 2 seconds 99.9 then returns to 99.6 and so on in continuous loop. However, it finds an FM antenna signal quite powerful,it stops at 99.6, and I read ONLY info RDS Name station but NEVER TMC events.

    Disable RDS Button (green):
    if left ON, it allows you to enter osk and type as always from osk, but just clicked lock immediately on current frequency.
    Problem: click on Enable RDS, and before clicking it was obviously on enable autoscan (blue) and at that moment the freq oscillation. for autoscan effect was for example 99.7, freq. the lock happens to 99.7 and not always to 99.6. The click lock without checking the set frequency set previously,so you MUST NEVER stay enabled RDS button but just to type from osk.
    Reason:
    I have to understand if the freq block. what you do with code allows or does not exchange RDS\TMC data between device and NG (and I think DO NOT allow it, from what I see live).
    I read ok a freq. stable but I can not determine if there is actually RDS communication between the device and NG, without signal power slider I can not understand.

    Council:
    we leave for "all user" for now the version in first current post #1 because this new plugin\solution has to figure out whether it's better or worse with regard to autoscan\lock freq. Probably better than post #1.
    Of course I can say that from the old version of the photo (but what version I did not remember) on the freq. 99.6 I have no longer received TMC events but only RDS name.I would like to get paid TMC license (InfoBlu for Italy, suitable for .tmc files I have released). InfoBlu always has a good RDS\TMC signal while TMC free (99.6) it has weak signal...but it seems unrecognizable license file .lyc for Italy!

    My next future: I need to boost my car FM antenna signal to get the maximum power and to have (hopefully) TMC events ,but why before with old release and current FM antenna configuration I received TMC events, photos they show... and then logically why I no longer receive TMC events is still thinking of something different in the plugin code that hinders them with the new post release #1 over the old releases ???? It seems inexplicable.

    Maybe I will also test the solution of using a built-in amplified active antenna to be hidden on the front glass and dedicated ONLY to my RDS\TMC device,which is now connected with Y splitter to FM Diversity amplifier antenna of the car.

    The adventure continues...

    Bye friend

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    I don't understand why!
    Because:
    (I don't change anything important in lua files , to the last plugins#. The Only changes becomes, in ui files!)

    So, we return again, back to the older plugins: #45 and #93 which works, with only one small change(the device keep the last frequency we typing to osk, after restarting it)!

    And we, test the 2 zips again.
    Perhaps we keep these 2 zips!(if we have good results)

    Or we keep the: 45# 93#, (JUST IT IS! without add anything)
    I know that its very difficult to you to test it!
    Also I know that you are tired, after all of theese tests!
    Perhaps we keep theese two zips and stop here.

    For me, is very easy to change anything inside files!
    All the difficult part is yours, which you test it!


    Here! this case is different than the others!
    The problem is NOT a mistake in coding!
    but we don't have any base to start.
    we don't know exactly RDS
    Behaviour.
    Except from this, we have and the signal from the stations!)
    And this is the point:
    ---"we don't know exactly how this machine works with RDS and NG!
    --We don't know exactly why and when becomes auto scans!)
    I managed to stop auto scan and give manual prices for frequency ,in these 2 zips, #45 , #93 with a function..
    But whatever I add after this, we lost this feature!)
    Really! its the first time that I don't understand why!)
    Because I don't change anything from these 2 zips
    Which have connection with auto scan!
    But sometimes, I think that the problem comes from the this station which made our experiments( low signal...)
    And not from plugins#!!!.
    Because this is more logic...
    )







    So I don't want to pressure you anymore.
    I feel very badly!


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    Big Friend,

    we're trying to develop something that no one has done so far, so it's normal that it takes time and effort on both sides.
    So no problem to test or give support to you for any ideas.
    Well, you do not have to be "sad" you're doing a wonderful job with this plugin.
    We can try to retrofit with plugins as you rightly write, to find one to have as a safe and working base.
    At least a real test that RDS \ TMC and your plugin works with, my photos show it, so it's on the right track...

    Meanwhile, this morning I bought a mini-amplified FM internal antenna in a car center, which I want to use ONLY for my TMC device and via Y splitter. After I edit this post with photos of what antenna and name, for any other users looking for it to work right!
    I talked to the seller about the electronic features of this and other antennas...and this one I bought seems to satisfy the right gain in the FM 87.5 \ 108Mhz range.
    Maybe tonight I can fit her in the car.
    I just have to change the current DIN standard jack with another suitable for my device, no problem to do this.
    Afterwards we hope to have a good RDS signal, and continue with the adventure.
    So let's continue working: D

    A nice thing we could add, and this certainly does not ruin anything for RDS data exchange functions:
    You can have a database where you store multiple frequencies to use with RDS \ TMC via NG.
    Example:
    setup screen TMC.
    A new button that opens an osk similar to the one used now for freq digits RDS, where the freq. which you type is stored and saved in one database.
    After you also have a new button that shows a new screen, always in the TMC setup screen, where we display all the frequencies typed and stored, and possibly useful for RDS \ TMC.
    Click on any of these frequencies to become automatic the current frequency to use directly with RDS \ TMC.
    What do you think, can you do this?
    I think it would be useful ...

    As soon as I can test live the plugins you put in upload # 45 and # 93 and then report results.

    Bye Friend

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    picture of mini antenna.

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    Length = 14 cm.
    Height = 1.7 cm.
    Thickness = 1.5 cm.
    Gain FM = 20db
    Gain AM = 35db
    Power = 12 \ 14v max DC
    Absorption = 8mA
    Led on board for PowerOn
    Antenna connection = DIN standard plug
    Antenna wire lenght = 2.30 meters

    For power +12v connection use wire +12v Remote 2Din Unit Antenna.
    Power GND use any body plate point.
    Last edited by Bixo; 19th September 2017 at 11:13 PM.

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    Following the history of previous posts, I would say that maybe the plugin that worked with my TMC photos and active events was that in post # 41.
    From my next comments (post # 46) I wrote that I had some news to tell you (just receiving TMC events with the plugin) and I still did not try the next plugins that you had uploaded to me in your # 45 post ...
    Tonight I try plugin # 41, I was able to download it with zippy links.

    Anyway, unfortunately I can only do tests using a free RDS \ TMC station with low signal, 99.6mhz...so we are always in doubt ..the problem is the low signal or the plugin ??
    Unfortunately I do not have a TMC license (.lyc file) for payment service InfoBlu of Italy suitable for the .tmc files I have released! The signal would be better.--
    But...why did I ever receive TMC events with 99.6MHz?
    It is not excluded that the last few days the TMC service does not function properly on freq. 99.6...who knows...but it would be the best of bad luck though!
    Last edited by Bixo; 19th September 2017 at 06:04 PM.

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    Test live plugin post #41 (attached below).

    This was the version I received TMC events days ago... while tonight I do not receive with 99.6Mhz either RDS station name
    probably the signal this day is very low on this FM station, yesterday I had the station RDS name...
    However, in this version it was not activated the latest auto freq. lock, I saw that even with Enable blue or green writing button, NG works in search of frequencies correctly.
    Another day when I received TMC events with 99.6Mhz, I always had the usual freq oscillation, 99.6 up and down in loop as I explained several times and still behave this way with this version...but when I had a good RDS \ TMC signal, with this version I remember lock automatically on 99.6Mhz and remained stable, reading RDS station name, and after seeing TMC events.

    I say this: we leave the plugin post#1 for the moment, but we are working on this old version now, which has less automatisms of the new one, but I see that in any situation does not lock data flow between device and NG, the freq scanning it looks okay.
    I do not have the 100% guarantee, but I see that it works well.
    The only real problem is that if I do not have a good signal, I can say no more than this.

    Question:
    when you run the autoscan freq lock code (on the latest versions of the plugin, not on this old version) also write "system.ini" in the "save" folder, in the flag:

    [tmc]
    saved_last_frequency = "99.6"; or other freq. typed with osk

    If you do this I will warn you NOT WANT, you can not edit this flag while Igo is IN RUN, at least you could not do with Igo 8.3.x, Igo Primo 1.x or Igo 2.x, I remember this....otherwise the flow TMC data is locked.
    Maybe this is the problem with lock autoscan of the latest versions I say the data flow seems blocked ... check it.

    I attach you to the "base" plugin that I would use to use from now on, but you have to adjust the freq. button size. too big on cockpit and put blue text in osk where he says:
    <Enter number 87.5-108 .....
    In this version were not right, remember?
    After upload the plugin with zippy.

    Ok, if you want you can try to create the frequency database screen as i was asking and slider signal (if possible of course, here you know everything )

    Bye Friend
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