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    Hello again

    Now that I've set up iGO perfectly, I've had several trial navigation to known places.
    As in any other navigation software I use the profile "fast" and "car" (I am talking about IGO nextgen for Android with latest HERE maps.)
    The calculated routes are terrible, because "fast" is not faster or at least as fast as "short", it's significantly slower.

    After a few tests I found out that the dependent variable for the route calculation is the set 'maximum speed' in the vehicle profile. With "130 km/h" the fast routes are not fast, with "70 km/h" the routes are totally different and a lot better...

    What is this phenomenon and what is the optimal maximum speed to get "good" routes then?

    To any moderator, yes I used the forum search 'route calculation' in iGO forums and there is nothing like that to find.

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    And, in addition, the way calculations and routes differ when map provider changes.
    E.g., what is short route for Here could be easy for TT. Only an example, does not have to be exactly this instance.
    Using hnr files slightly aligns the situation, but personally I prefer the routing without them. And somehow it's more "natural" with the TT publisher.
    But that's just my subjective experience, in "my" part of the world.

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    And also different programs are calculating different routes with same maps.

    iGO Primo Israel, Israel NG, PAL and World calculated different local (city) routes with exact same settings and same (HERE) maps in few specific situations.

    Route created with Israel NG seems to me as most logical and optimal, for those situations I tested.
    It was not "shorter" but it was using less left-right turns, which is simpler and could save some time.
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    I use Avic, Pal and Israel, in my situation (TT and region) routes are the same
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    I recogniced a similar behaviour, but I use most the time 'easy' mode for routing. Fast is not the best in my region, after a lot of tests. Originally I used a Becker Revo2 device and loved the routing, now on Android is really different...

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    Well, I think it's even more than 'only' a different routing from app version to app version or map provider to map provider.
    Watch this:
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    As you see, iGO nextgen on Android is able to calculate a good and smart route BUT it is only provided if you calculate alternatives. So the second route on demand is not only 5 kilometers shorter, it is even 5 minutes faster

    So next observation: The routes themselves differs from selected 'maximum speed' in vehicle profile AND so is the sorting of which route is number 1. If I set maximum speed to lowest = 50km/h I get always the second best from screenshot shown as first one. If I set it to highest = 200km/h (no speed limit in my country), everything is totally fu**** up, iGO thinks I will drive 200 all the time and the ETA is 3 minutes for the same route...

    I will try it with teleatlas then.

    EDIT: Only small changes with teleatlas, the main 'bug' in not showing me the fastest route like above still persist and the strange dependence of vehicle maximum speed too. Also 'correctness=100' or enable/disable histspeed won't change anything.
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    So you think a 'good' maximum speed value could give us a better route calculating?

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    Yes, I can replicate that behavior on my devices all the time
    But 50 km/h is not the best if you plan long routes. And even if we find a best value, which will give us tomtom like navigation (or better), there remains the ETA bug then. iGO uses this value for time of arrival calculation.
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    I do not think so.

    The softwares base their calculations only on the maximum speeds allowed in the various roads and not at the maximum speed you assign to your car. The softwares are made to respect, and make you respect the limits and the road rules.
    I tried to calculate a route of 140 km, almost all on the highway, duration 1 hour and 50 minutes. After I changed the max speed set for the car from 130 to 190 km/h and I had the same route calculated again...... nothing has changed ....

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    Well then you did not test it the right way.
    As I told you, set it to 50 km/h and the routes won't use highways, set it to 200 km/h and it won't use city streets. Also the time of arrival is mainly calculated depending on that setting.

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    Both calculated at the same time at the same location for same destination.

    Conclusion: The faster the car/higher the tempo limit in your country (interpretation of 'maximum speed' in your vehicle profile) the slower the routes iGO calculates will be. Takes the 9 km detour to be able to drive fast while being slower at all. This doesn't make sense.
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