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    Hi Osiris4isis, If you tell me exactly what program and ux and skin or no license, and so on you want to test, i'm happy to do that for you, no problem at all, only thing is i don't drive through europe anymore, only in the Netherlands and Belgium nowadays, but here in the Netherlands we have a lot of tunnels and low underpasses, all limited at 4m and most have the warning system set at 4,1m.

    Case 1 : I tryed that, and so did The Bookworm,. Program recalculates another route around the tunnel when i drove by the 1st exit, when i passed the second exit there was no possibility anymore to avoid the tunnel, and than he recalculates the route through the tunnel and gives you the big screen warning, so you do know you're in trouble, there's no turning back and no other route possible. with my version i didn't get the arrow signs like The Bookworm.

    Case 2 : I almost never take a detour because of a traffic message, but when i pops up you see the detour if you push the button and i do see another route, and i think it is recalculated with the parameters in the truck profile, so if you follow that route you should be safe. reason i don't follow the given detour route in traffic jam, is mostly you drive a lot of km to get round, and in my opinion you don't gain much time to drive around, better to stay on route and go through the traffic jam.

    Case 3 : off Route driving, gives no signs in my version, and no warnings when entering the tunnel, with planned route i've got the big warning when entering the tunnel, and yes i have the normal turn restriction zip, and there are no distances to follow, just when you drive by a road it shows up and tells No Right Turn for example.

    Just to be clear, i deleted this version with Pongo skin, and gonna test monday with a fresh instal of Gift without skin and licenses and with truck(world)ux

    Grtz. Ludo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    Case 1, you have a planned route and you deviates from it (because of accident or you didn't follow direction), proggy should tell you how to get back on the route. This is the arrow direction and distance shown in alert icon area of cockpit.

    Case 2, you have a planned route but got redirection because of traffic, you should see notification in cockpit. I don't know if you tested this case yet.

    Case 3, you don't have planned route, you don't get any notification nor alert for restriction. Like I said, if you see restriction signs (that doesn't rotate nor have distance), it's most likely from turn_restriction.zip

    If you're talking about using truck.zip so you get alert icons in cockpit, proggy knows and report the necessary data in variables used in truck.zip (look at the codes for those variables)
    The routing engine flagged truck restriction and the mapping engine will populate those variables to be used in truck.zip This is the reason why I wasn't sure if it was working or not (because I can't test it when driving). Those variables will only get flagged if the conditions are correct.
    Case 1 - I think I did this test with bridge height scenario I described earlier. So, in this case navi tried to reroute me on different road, but I still followed my route and I got the warning window.

    Case 2 - unfortunately, I live in Bulgaria and we don't have TMC here. But, I think if the programm is capable of rerouting with truck restriction in mind, there is no matter what the reason for rerouting is - TMC message, drivers wish to not follow the road or any other.

    Case 3 - I do driving mostly without planned route, so I constantly see the blue signs with distance. Never tried turn_restriction ux, so I don't know what kind of notification it should provide, but I think it should be something similar to "simple" drivers alert (e.g. "Overtake forbidden" or "Pedestrian crossing").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo Palinckx View Post
    Just to be clear, i deleted this version with Pongo skin, and gonna test monday with a fresh instal of Gift without skin and licenses and with truck(world)ux
    @Ludo
    BTW, what kind of navi/radio is in your SCANIA? Is it ANDROID based? How it updates maps & files? Is it network connected - cellular or something else?

    Regarding the restriction data, I still think that there are some road segments in the maps, that miss this information or it is incomplete or (worst case) wrong.
    For example, because Bulgaria is a small country and is outside of the scope of the map makers (Here & TomTom mostly), there is a lot of wrong data in maps - wrong speed limit, for example, or turn restrictions or embeded POI in the map. I drive every day near POI of a petrol-station in the middle of nowhere and I know for sure that there was never ever been a station there. Just imagine a drivers confusion, if he/she relays on this station, because in a circle of 10-15km there is no other. Maybe same with truck-data in The Netherlands?

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    @The Bookworm,

    I do agree it is not always 100% accurat, and i do think there are some things missing or incomplete in the FTR or Map files for the Netherlands, i don't think it has something to do with Nextgen of any version, i tried the same route with different ones and i get no other route planned or warnings.

    For the Scania radio they don't give any information, Ive got the Premium Scania Radio, it's is a Bosch 7 620 000 063 unit, i think it's Windows os, and i can't get in the menu for update anything, only thing you do can is buy a micro-sd card with map updates.
    It doesn't have a internet connection, it get TMC from radio signals, no cellular either, just a Radio/CD/ combi with USB, Bluetooth and touchscreen for navigation.
    Thing is, i don't wanna loose the radio, because i have a integrated telephone system, and full steering wheel control, if i change it for by example a Pioneer, than i loose most of the steering wheel control functions and telephone, they do sell a interface for it, but not all functions work, the microphone is integrated in my seat for example.

    If you can help me out, please let me know.

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    Grtz. Ludo.
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    Hello All, i tested today the program iGO NextGen 9.18.27.687519 from Jan 26 2017 without a skin and only added the Truck(World) Ux zip.

    I only can tell right now, i don't see any differences in route calculation, warnings or others, it's all the same as descriped in my post 111.

    If you wan't to change or try something, just let me know, for now i leave the program the way it is, all original and do some more testing.

    Grtz. Ludo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo Palinckx View Post
    Hello All, i tested today the program iGO NextGen 9.18.27.687519 from Jan 26 2017 without a skin and only added the Truck(World) Ux zip.

    I only can tell right now, i don't see any differences in route calculation, warnings or others, it's all the same as descriped in my post 111.
    Same with NEXTGEN 9.18.27.705829... There is no Extended setting for the truck (or any other vehicle).
    I have tested it like it came for install and also tried to make a "mish mash" - erasing original ux's and copying the ones from working version (Israel/Gift). No luck. Then for final test I replaced the data.zip with the same result.
    So, it seems (at least for me) that WORLD versions are not capable of handling extended settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_bookworm View Post
    So, it seems (at least for me) that WORLD versions are not capable of handling extended settings.
    Yes, this is what I found for NextGen9.18.27.693527-World(14Mar2017) as well and had posted early in this thread. The reason is the truck "license flag" is never true; this led me to believe either it's not "fully" cracked or not fully implemented (map engine can't handle truck data)
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    Truck support is implemented in software code. Not in extra plug in.
    UX is just an interface for software possibilities.
    For now - NOT implemented in latest World & Basar.

    Cr@cking the program to work with licenses or without, is another story.
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    You are wrong. "Truck restrictions" are done in many places. In core/base codes such as: mapping engine and routing engine; and in presentation layer codes such as: UX's and skin. They ALL have to work to get "full" capability. I already posted proof of that. Please do NOT say things you do not know.
    A "good" cracked program will fixed/replaced libraries with those capabilities. Cracking isn't just for fixing licenses. If it can't do it (especially when World release note said "truck restriction" was added) then it's not "fully" cracked. And as I already said, the license flag was false.

    News flash: UX's are "software code"
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    Truck data for restrictions are written in fbl and ftr files. I didn't say anything about that.
    Truck support depends only of software version/edition, I said.
    Truck ux for World is 48kB.
    There is no truck ux in AVIC/Basar/Gift/Israel/T4A/Szulin
    Vehicle Selection ux is arround ~70kB for all versions, approximately the same content is in each.

    If you interchange files, happens...nothing.
    Payed versions of world for example still do not have extended settings for truck. That have nothing to do with patching software. Stop guessing.
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