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    First, I'm not arguing over what you like or not like. It's the reasons what you give that bother me. For example, it's perfectly fine to say, I like the horizontal fields better; but it's not ok to say it takes less space when it's not. That's all.
    Concerning NextGen "fully" cracked reason, that has nothing to do with being "clean." Just because you don't want to use it (for whatever reason) doesn't mean others doesn't. If you're bringing in the point of a display being "clean" or "professional", lets not restrict NextGen because of irrelevant reasons.
    You mentioned the ability of Decent skin having options, but at the same time frown other skins for having too many options. Pretty much everything displayed by a modded skin or using default skin, can be changed (either via options or codes) If you don't think so, then you're not using that skin correctly or its full potential. Personally I really don't care what skins people like or use, but I do care if their reasoning doesn't jive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wezly View Post
    ok here's my issue lol (nothings ever simple with me!)

    It looks like I have a UX overriding it...so in my root I have ux/skinevo2.4.zip That's the skin/background that's currently loading. I tried to overwrite the existing loading.bmp with mine but I got a start up error saying the resolution or skin is not supported and then the program quits. I think the skinevo.zip ux is what's giving me the clean look in Primo so ideally id want to keep it but just amend the loading.bmp files. I've attached both the skinevo2.4.zip, sys.txt and my loading background for you guys to look at...Any chance once of you guys can help with the amendment? God knows what im doing wrong as my jaguar loading screen is saved as a 800 x 480 bmp file? so not sure why Primo is crashing when I overwrite the files.
    Try this (mod only for 800x480 and untested), it is assumed that you don't have any other UX's that overrides it
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    Update: Added to night theme as well

    BTW, I don't know if your sys.txt was corrupted, but it has the following at the end
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    which means that setting is irrelevant to your "Reach destination" screen solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    Try this (mod only for 800x480 and untested), it is assumed that you don't have any other UX's that overrides it
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    BTW, I don't know if your sys.txt was corrupted, but it has the following at the end
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    which means that setting is irrelevant to your "Reach destination" screen solution.
    Hey I tried your mod...Didn't work I'm afraid...Still loads with the skinevo loading screen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    First, I'm not arguing over what you like or not like. It's the reasons what you give that bother me. For example, it's perfectly fine to say, I like the horizontal fields better; but it's not ok to say it takes less space when it's not. That's all.
    Ok, I don't know why I'm even replying to this (I really don't care if my reasons "bother" you or not), but here goes anyway...

    Are you telling me that this screen:
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    has more visible map area than this screen (which contains the same information and more, not to mention other functionality that doesn't use any screen real estate):
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    Not only does the Decent skin show more of the map screen overall, but it also displays more information at the same time (and looks better and provides more functionality).

    In terms of the data fields in the stock skin using more space compared to the Decent skin, I did a mock up for you - I put the 3 stock fields over top of the 3 Decent fields - which uses more space? If I added the other information that Decent provides on the screen (date, time, speed and second-turn info), it wouldn't even be close.
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    Simply put, Decent give me more information and uses less space - and the 1/4" of space that the data fields do take up is *behind* my vehicle anyway, so it would otherwise be "wasted" space. And I can even make the data fields transparent if I really wanted to show that map area as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    Concerning NextGen "fully" cracked reason, that has nothing to do with being "clean." Just because you don't want to use it (for whatever reason) doesn't mean others doesn't. If you're bringing in the point of a display being "clean" or "professional", lets not restrict NextGen because of irrelevant reasons.
    Regarding NexgGen, first of all, I never said that "others doesn't" use it! Others are free to use whatever they want - for whatever reasons they want - it doesn't bother me like it appears to bother you. I never said that I don't use NextGen because it's not as "clean"" or "professional" - my point was that regardless of what else it does or doesn't do, it's a complete non-starter for me since there is no fully cracked version for WinCE. Until I can get past that limitation, I have no desire to even explore current versions. When I did try it when it first became available for WinCE in "limited crack" form, I found that I didn't like it (for a few reasons) - but the main reason why I won't even consider it *now* is because a fully cracked version doesn't exist. That is why I won't even consider NextGen - period. That is a VERY relevant reason to *me*.

    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    You mentioned the ability of Decent skin having options, but at the same time frown other skins for having too many options. Pretty much everything displayed by a modded skin or using default skin, can be changed (either via options or codes) If you don't think so, then you're not using that skin correctly or its full potential. Personally I really don't care what skins people like or use, but I do care if their reasoning doesn't jive.
    I like the Decent skin for MANY reasons, one of which is the options that it does provide. Not how many options - but the usefulness of those options. When you combine that with the overall appearance and functionality, it's my preferred skin. I don't want to have to change a ton of code to get a skin that I like - especially when there is already one that does what I want. :-)

    This will be my last post on the subject - I've already wasted *way* too much time on this subject...


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    Quote Originally Posted by wezly View Post
    ok here's my issue lol (nothings ever simple with me!)

    It looks like I have a UX overriding it...so in my root I have ux/skinevo2.4.zip That's the skin/background that's currently loading. I tried to overwrite the existing loading.bmp with mine but I got a start up error saying the resolution or skin is not supported and then the program quits. I think the skinevo.zip ux is what's giving me the clean look in Primo so ideally id want to keep it but just amend the loading.bmp files. I've attached both the skinevo2.4.zip, sys.txt and my loading background for you guys to look at...Any chance once of you guys can help with the amendment? God knows what im doing wrong as my jaguar loading screen is saved as a 800 x 480 bmp file? so not sure why Primo is crashing when I overwrite the files.
    Strange... I know that there is a particular "order" that Primo used (out of data.zip, ui_igo9, UX, skin, etc), but I'm not sure of the exact order. I thought that any files in the ui_igo9 directory would override everything else, but maybe I have the order wrong.

    What you could do is simply replace the loading.bmp in the skinevo UX file. If you go that route, make sure that you use an old version of WinRAR (WinRAR 4.x works - newer versions create .zip files that Primo doesn't like). Here is a link to WinRAR 4.01 - you should be able to use this to replace the loading.bmp in the skinevo UX file with your loading.bmp. At least for now until we come up with a better solution...


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    Hope that helps. I'll test using ui_igo9 later today - just curious if it should work or not.

    Do you know what the skinevo UX file actually does? It doesn't seem to change the main Primo navigation screen (that I can see from your pics)... I'm not familiar with it off-hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrosky View Post
    Not only does the Decent skin show more of the map screen overall, but it also displays more information at the same time (and looks better and provides more functionality).

    In terms of the data fields in the stock skin using more space compared to the Decent skin, I did a mock up for you - I put the 3 stock fields over top of the 3 Decent fields - which uses more space? If I added the other information that Decent provides on the screen (date, time, speed and second-turn info), it wouldn't even be close.
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    First, you didn't indicate what skin you're comparing it with. Second, your picture showed other than a few minor changes (next street needing not fully bordered or a transparent next street) and slightly larger border around data fields, the space is pretty much the same. If you were using a skin that provide settable transparency level, you would see the map behind those data fields and the border size will be irrelevant. News flash, your "other information" listed are part of other skins as well and I've seen it very well organized. Finally, if you're using a skin that provide timed display, all those data fields won't even be shown fixed all the time and the map will look much "cleaner."

    Quote Originally Posted by jtrosky View Post
    Decent skins doesn't give you more map space!!!
    Exactly what I've been saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtrosky View Post
    Simply put, Decent give me more information and uses less space - and the 1/4" of space that the data fields do take up is *behind* my vehicle anyway, so it would otherwise be "wasted" space. And I can even make the data fields transparent if I really wanted to show that map area as well.
    This is YOUR preference, some of us do want to see little map space BEHIND the vehicle.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtrosky View Post
    Regarding NexgGen, first of all, I never said that "others doesn't" use it! Others are free to use whatever they want - for whatever reasons they want - it doesn't bother me like it appears to bother you. I never said that I don't use NextGen because it's not as "clean"" or "professional" - my point was that regardless of what else it does or doesn't do, it's a complete non-starter for me since there is no fully cracked version for WinCE. Until I can get past that limitation, I have no desire to even explore current versions. When I did try it when it first became available for WinCE in "limited crack" form, I found that I didn't like it (for a few reasons) - but the main reason why I won't even consider it *now* is because a fully cracked version doesn't exist. That is why I won't even consider NextGen - period. That is a VERY relevant reason to *me*.
    Here is a revamp:
    In your many posts you claimed how "clean" Decent skin is, then I brought up NextGen also being "clean" Then you said you don't care for it because it's not fully cracked (although I failed to see what that has to do with the "cleaniness") Your reason not to consider NextGen has nothing to do with the topic of comparing it to other skins (especially Decent) regarding the "cleaniness" of it. As I said before people preference are subjective, but if you're going to compare, compare it for the same reason. It's like a discussion is on comparing how fast two cars can go, then suddenly oh I don't like the color of that car, so I don't care for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtrosky View Post
    I like the Decent skin for MANY reasons, one of which is the options that it does provide. Not how many options - but the usefulness of those options. When you combine that with the overall appearance and functionality, it's my preferred skin. I don't want to have to change a ton of code to get a skin that I like - especially when there is already one that does what I want. :-)
    It's clear to me now that you have not investigated other skins to its full potential. There are few skin that have "useful" options (much more than Decent) such as transparency control, font control, color control, timed display of buttons, etc... From what you wanting, not much code changes are needed. From what "useful" options other skins does provided, definitely yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wezly View Post
    Hey I tried your mod...Didn't work I'm afraid...Still loads with the skinevo loading screen?

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    I've updated my attachment in original post, give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    I've updated my attachment in original post, give it a try.
    That did the trick!! Thanks! Can I ask how you got it working please? Id like to get the exiting screens with the same background also

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    Here is how
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    I will let you do the exercise yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
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    I will let you do the exercise yourself.
    Thanks! all working now - appreciate all the help

 

 
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