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    Haha, i saw you'd edited that rambling post back to nothing much but you could have left it. No one will bash you up in here because it's the 'Free Talk' section, and you didn't post any trash in the other thread at all [if anything, i did!]. If you want that post #128 re-instated, just tell me which of your many edited versions you'd like back [there were 5 spread over 2 days - see? i have 'magik'! ].

    Some observations:
    • Jack Benny was an absolute ace comedian, and a totally accidental one too as you'd know. Dunno if his brand of comedy would be appreciated by the younger modern generations though ... i doubt it somehow.
    • Aussie 'Foo was here' predates 'Kilroy' by a generation, Foo goes back to WW1 [originally, like Kilroy, the words were written by themselves without a cartoon]. The WW2 Kilroy and longer-standing Foo both were amalgamated with the British 'Mr Chad' [also WW2 era] who was the first with the bald little man peeking over the wall. Foo was a familiar sight here right up to the '60, appearing in all sorts of strange places just like Kilroy & Mr Chad did elsewhere.


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    • Use 'furphy' at your peril in US, nobody will have a clue what you mean. Even the younger generations here don't use such expressions at all, same with rhyming slang which is mostly lost on them along with most spoonerisms. I absolutely hate some of the youngsters' affectations such as 'So how's your day been so far?' [17 yo shop assistant or checkout chick to me at the wrong end of my 70th decade]. My response [if it's in the morning] 'So far so good, but plenty of time yet for it to go badly wrong'. If it's later in the day 'Good actually .... [long pause accompanied by a suspicious eye-narrowed look from me] .... Why? You're not going to stuff it up for me are you??!!'. Both responses usually get me a worried sidelong glance but the latter scores a look from the kid all but saying 'Are you just a crazy old bloke or are you also quite dangerous?'. When i was a 17 yo counter-jumper everyone [even your social peers of a similar age as customers] were addressed as "Sir" or "Ma'am" with appropriate forelock tugging tone ['Good morning Sir, how may I help you?']. How times change, a young waiter in a table-service restaurant called me 'mate' the other night. Didn't really worry me, at least he didn't ask me how my day was so far. I'm a perverse old pr*ck though, if he'd addressed me as 'Sir' i'd have probably asked him if it was spelled 'c.u.r' anyway, or told him i only let coppers and lawyers call me 'sir' and i don't like either profession much.
    • About Aussie 'dialects'. Curiously no, there are no really distinct accents or dialects here, just some regional expression differences and sightly different pronunciations of some words or different meanings of words in colloquial speech. Some examples: Those from Melbourne and Adelaide and thereabouts will say 'school' similar to the Kiwis [where the sound is something of an amalgamation of the way the bulk of the english-speaking world says 'school' and the nordic toast 'skōl', the first part 'sch' and the last part sorta like 'kōl' is the best way i can describe it]; around my parts we use the word 'port' [a diminutive of the FR portmanteau] for just about anything used to carry items e.g. schoolbag, briefcase, suitcase, overnight bag etc. Don't hear that much outside Qld. South Australians use 'fritz' for the 'manufactured meat' luncheon sausage but the bulk of us call it 'devon' although West Australians call it 'polony' and it's 'bung' in Tassie. Queenslanders further north and some other regional types will finish every sentence with 'hey' with or without a rising terminal and sometimes drawn out [will help spot a hayseed in the big smoke every time, never used by cityslickers]. It's similar to the way many Canadians tend to finish with 'eh' really. Ppl in country towns or those 'out bush' will always say they are going 'up to Brisbane' even if they are hundreds of miles north at the time [they use it to denote going to a bigger town or community]. If i'm going north to Bundaberg from Brisbane i'd say 'I'm heading up to Bundy next week' but they'd likely say [the oldies anyway] for the opposite trip 'I'll be going up to Brissie' even though they're going 'down South'. Generally though, it's not hard to fit in elsewhere, particularly for a 'capitol city type' in another large city. I can go to Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide or Perth and fit right in as long as i don't use any typically Queenslander expressions. Perth is thousands of miles from here with bugger-all other than mostly desert in-between and yet the basic accents are quite the same. Contrast that to NY and LA for instance, they seem to barely understand each other if they slip into the vernacular. Incredible to me are small communities in Britain where two hamlets only 10 miles apart may have their own 'dialects', both of which are totally unintelligible to outsiders and barely understandable to each other. Fortunately such communities in modern times have developed dual dialects, one for 'home-talk' and one for 'outsider communications'.


    About your old 276c and LM sub, a lot of the older units which haven't had firmware updates for yonks [use that one in AZ?] may start to have trouble with modern NT maps i think. The current NTs are becoming somewhat different to the original NTs introduced to supersede the OF [non-NT] CNs. Time will tell on that too. I'd still be kicking Garmin big time over it if they won't continue your LM sub though.

    PS: 'Struth Mate! The Overlanders was made before i was even born [barely a year though]. Can't you find some modern Oz movies to venerate?
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    Struth M8 that was a bit of a chin wag, and over here we have the suitcase for travel, and Polony is made by Watsonia the others call it luncheon " but I like Polony over the other flavours."
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    OK, before I attend to all the new verbal drivel on this disreputable thread I am trying to apply my giant brain to solving this equation:

    Ensure you have WebUpdater installed in the Garmin root folder on your PC's C drive, i.e. C:\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe [only in that exact location or this won't work]. If not, install it now: WebUpdater (Windows XP SP3 and newer) software version 2.5.6.
    Extract the test.rar to root of your C drive [only there].
    Open test folder to find 'gmapsupp.img' and 'Install_gmapsupp.bat' files and leave visible.
    Connect your unit [with the 512MB DataCard inserted] to your PC.
    When you hear the Windows device connection tone, double-click 'Install_gmapsupp.bat' to start the flash.
    Go for a walk or file your toenails for about half and hour.
    When the flash finishes you should have the new 2016.10 map in your unit.

    I made it to step one, maybe, and possibly even step two...

    Thanks to your excellent directions I downloaded the Web Updater, and in my C > program files (x86) > Garmin > WebUpdater folder and I now have a shiny new thing called WebUpdater (ver 2.5.6.0) with a circle and an upwards pointing arrow inside the circle. It doesn't say "exe" though. And that's as far as I got. How does one extract a "test.rar" and put it into the root of my C drive, whatever that is?

    I kinda thought of myself as something of a computer genius before I ran into you. Perhaps we should just go back to talking about beer.

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    Ok, beer talk it is. I don't much like Millers but i'll drink it, Bud isn't too bad. Rest of US and Canadian beer is mostly swill [so's your whiskey and their whisky]. Aussie beer is generally the best in the world. Castlemaine XXXX Bitter is the best from OZ so therefore it's the pinnacle. Short conversation now finished [i'm a bigot, so don't argue with me]. Righto Genius! Back to your real problem:

    • First set your PC to show extensions of known file types: Control Panel>Folder Options>View and uncheck 'Hide extensions for known file types'. It will then show the thingy with the circle and up arrow [it's an icon] as WebUpdater.exe.
    • Note I said: "Ensure you have WebUpdater installed in the Garmin root folder on your PC's C drive, i.e. C:\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe [only in that exact location or this won't work]". You've got C:\Program Files (x86)\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe it would seem. Maybe that's the default install location so you can do one of 2 things, move WU to a Garmin folder in the root of C drive ['root' folder means it's directly placed in there [C:\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe as i've said]. You've got Garmin folder inside another folder in the root of C drive [Program Files (x86)]. The other thing you can do, maybe easier for you, is just don't muck around with moving WU exe but instead change the bat file to read this: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe /upload_file rgn=10 path=C:\test\gmapsupp.img -autorun usb /i" [copy inside the quotes and paste it over the original text] so that it complies with your present placement of WU exe. To do that, first change the .bat extension to .txt, open with NotePad, make the change and save it. Finally change .txt back to .bat [read below further].
    • One can extract any rar file by using a compression program such as WinRar, WinZip, 7-zip, Universal Extractor etc etc. There's numerous free softs that can do it.You will direct the software to 'extract' [decompress] to a particular location, in this case C:\ is where you want the extracted folder named 'test', again as a root folder. Inside the test folder make the changes to Install_gmapsupp.bat as detailed above. Then proceed with the rest of the 'How To'.
    That's another 10 beers on the tab. If this keeps up it'll be worth an air ticket for me to collect.
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    Hello again (that's what Jack Benny used to say). Bud sucks. Millers is, I think, the best of the ordinary stuff they sell here, but to be honest I don't even drink beer anymore, so when you show up I'll just keep ordering them and stack them up in front of you. I remember once they were importing Fosters from Oz and it was very good. Then they started making it in Canada and it sucked too. At one time they were importing Lowenbrau from Germany and it was very good, but then the Budweiser mob bought it up and turned it into a Bud clone and now it's gone. So is Prior Double Dark. Long gone. I had a brief infatuation with Russian Imperial Stout. Oh, nuts, back to the computer...

    OK, now I know what "root" means. What if I just create a new folder and call it Garmin and put it in the C root, and them move just the Garmin Web Updater in to it, or copy it...or should I move the whole entire Garmin folder (and there's another one called Garmin GPS Plug In, whatever that is, too) out of Program Files (x86) - and I don't have a clue what x86 is either - over to the C root? And if I mess everything up I'll keep a note of what I did and put the stuff back where I found it. I already have 7-zip on my computer. If this works I'll be totally amazed.

    I'm an old movie fan. The Overlanders was beautifully made, tho it was a little too modern for me. I haven't seen it in years. I watched the big Chinese military parade the other day and they touched upon the subject of the film - said that if it wasn't for them the Japanese would have easily overrun both Australia and India. And ya know I heard about your Foo guy somewhere along the line but forgot about it.

    Oh yeah, if you like Jack Benny I can give you a link where you can download many many hours of his old radio shows - and tons of other great stuff - for free. I downloaded his radio shows from the 30's through the 50's and listened to them. I listen while driving. They hold up perfectly I think. But you probably know all about that link already...and I was only going to charge you five beers (deducted from what I owe you) for it...

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    I can tell you really are a computer expert mate. [Task: Define 'expert'. Answer: X = an unknown quantity + spurt = a drip under pressure]. So now we've established you actually really know sweet f*** all about computers haven't we? [Oversimplification: 'Program Files (x86)' simply is the 'root' folder used in 64-bit Win OSs which conveniently separates the 'old' 32-bit software programs from the 'new' 64-bit ones which are usually placed in 'Program Files'. Specifically, 'x86' is a term now used loosely to mean '32-bit compatible' and has become synonymous with the IBM compatible/based i386 onwards PC's and/or 32-bit CPUs from Intel which were designated '80386'>, but in truth it was historically referring to the original 8086 CPUs supporting 16-bit architecture with backwardly compatible instruction set for earlier 8-bit stuff. Really it means different things to different people now depending on their level of competence in IT and/or their length of exposure to the IT industry and even, particularly so, the context of the term's use. As more generations of that Intel CPU family were available, eg. 80186, 80286, 80386 etc all ending in '86', the term x86 became common to refer to any CPU from Intel with '86' end in the model number. It's use then spread to similarly spec'ed AMD and other CPUs and also the actual PCs those brands of compatible CPUs were fitted to, hence 'x86 machine'. Often even today ppl will say x86 when really they're referring to 1A-32 or i368 as the actual 3rd gen of that Intel CPU line, the 80386]. Ca..ching! Another 10 beers. Sooooo, let's just concentrate on checking your reading and comprehension .... remember this bit from p#134?:
    .......... The other thing you can do, maybe easier for you, is just don't muck around with moving WU exe but instead change the bat file to read this: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe /upload_file rgn=10 path=C:\test\gmapsupp.img -autorun usb /i" [copy inside the quotes and paste it over the original text] so that it complies with your present placement of WU exe. To do that, first change the .bat extension to .txt, open with NotePad, make the change and save it. Finally change .txt back to .bat ...........
    Of course you don't remember it, you were too busy daydreaming about Jack Benny, the good ol' days, Japs overrunning Australia, B&W movies from the Jurassic period, remembering Foo and trying to gyp me outta some beers. If you mean this:
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    put those 5 beers back on the tab ya cheapskate!! BTW, practically nobody in AU drinks Fosters, it's mostly exported for that reason. If you liked AU brewed Fosters you'd love most of the other local beers. I seem to recall they tried brewing Fosters in England too, also a flop.

    Now, wot else have we managed to totally cock up between us?
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    "I can tell you really are a computer expert mate."


    Thank you!




    "'Program Files (x86)' simply is the 'root' folder used in 64-bit Win OSs which conveniently separates the 'old' 32-bit software programs from the 'new' 64-bit ones which are usually placed in 'Program Files'. Specifically, 'x86' is a term now used loosely to mean '32-bit compatible..."

    You took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna try to explain it to you but i didn't want to confuse you.





    "trying to gyp me outta some beers..."

    Ha ha, you Aussies are smarter than you look! You're wise guys too, aintcha? Sorta like antipodean Noo Yawkers!







    "The other thing you can do, maybe easier for you, is just don't muck around with moving WU exe but instead change the bat file to read this: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe /upload_file rgn=10 path=C:\test\gmapsupp.img -autorun usb /i" [copy inside the quotes and paste it over the original text] so that it complies with your present placement of WU exe. To do that, first change the .bat extension to .txt, open with NotePad, make the change and save it. Finally change .txt back to .bat ...........
    Of course you don't remember it, you were too busy daydreaming..."


    I admit my mind does tend to wander when you start going on about bat files (does that have something to do with Batman? I used to have a pal who was an expert on Pasadena, California, which I didn't know was such an interesting place before he showed me around. Wanna see some photos of moi exploring caves in subterranean Pasadena? No, huh? He showed me the house where Batman lived, or was it the actor who played Batman? I forgot now. I just remember it was a big house on the other side of the Pasadena arroyo.) Anyway, I will try to do what you are suggesting as best I can make heads or tails out of it. I'll try to keep notes of what I mess up so that when my computer breaks I might be able to repair it...tho I'm afraid my hard drive may be on its last leg anyway as every now and then the screen has been breaking up into a field of static, which you probably think is pretty funny. It might be the bat drive....




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    No, I mean librivox.org, and that will cost you ten beers. Check it out, mah man, as the hustlers in front of the porno places used to say around Times Square before they cleaned it up (Is it still cleaned up? I don't know. I haven't been back in three years, but I hear there's lots of hustlers plying their trade.)

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    put those 5 beers back on the tab ya cheapskate!! BTW, practically nobody in AU drinks Fosters, it's mostly exported for that reason. If you liked AU brewed Fosters you'd love most of the other local beers. I seem to recall they tried brewing Fosters in England too, also a flop.

    Now, wot else have we managed to totally cock up between us?

    OK, later, Foo. You shall be hearing from my team of Philadelphia lawyers after I wreck my perfectly functioning (except for some very minor parts like the hard drive) computer thanks to you.


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    Thank you!
    Clearly you're immune to irony, sarcasm and facetiousness [and see next comment too].

    You took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna try to explain it to you but i didn't want to confuse you.
    Huh? [see previous answer too].

    Ha ha, you Aussies are smarter than you look! You're wise guys too, aintcha? Sorta like antipodean Noo Yawkers!
    Oh, a woise guy hey?

    I admit my mind does tend to wander when you start going on about bat files (does that have something to do with Batman? I used to have a pal who was an expert on Pasadena, California, which I didn't know was such an interesting place before he showed me around. Wanna see some photos of moi exploring caves in subterranean Pasadena? No, huh? He showed me the house where Batman lived, or was it the actor who played Batman? I forgot now. I just remember it was a big house on the other side of the Pasadena arroyo.) Anyway, I will try to do what you are suggesting as best I can make heads or tails out of it. I'll try to keep notes of what I mess up so that when my computer breaks I might be able to repair it...tho I'm afraid my hard drive may be on its last leg anyway as every now and then the screen has been breaking up into a field of static, which you probably think is pretty funny. It might be the bat drive....
    Yes Virginia, there is a Batman.

    Pasadena CA is interesting to vous [or tú]? Wow! Gee, you'd must be really bowled over by Pasadena TX then. No? Not enough caves obviously and no batman residence either.

    Might be the bat drive, but more likely the 'look-at thingy' ... umm it's called the hall-monitor or something, or maybe the problem's with the whatchamacallit gizmo what works it ... the video cardsharp? Could be the EWE even.

    No, I mean librivox.org, and that will cost you ten beers. Check it out, mah man, as the hustlers in front of the porno places used to say around Times Square before they cleaned it up (Is it still cleaned up? I don't know. I haven't been back in three years, but I hear there's lots of hustlers plying their trade.)
    Last time i was in Noo Yawk was August 2008 and i didn't see any hustlers in Times Square however was forced by my travelling companion to avoid the porno places like the plague [where are they anyway? just for statistical purposes of course, not to check out ....]

    OK, later, Foo. You shall be hearing from my team of Philadelphia lawyers after I wreck my perfectly functioning (except for some very minor parts like the hard drive) computer thanks to you.


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    Jeez Kilroy, you move about as fast as a glacier. Are you ever gonna work up the gonads to flash the map to that old heap of of yours? More likely you'll wreak it than your PC, it's only worth bout five bucks anyway and you already owe me 35 beers [it's another 10 beers for the archive.org site link i gave you and i'll let you gyp me 5 for the librivox site, as quoted. Which site i did know about btw, but thought had closed years ago due to lack of traffic]. So if you brick the gpsmap276c you can reduce the debt to 33 beers - still about $2.50 with a decent tip for a beer in 'a-not-too-sleazy-bar' over there is it?
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    He's keeping up surprisingly, how about you Maggie?
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