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    Hi, Neil, and thank you very much - but I'm afraid it's like doubletalk to me, so I'll just make do with the 2015.1 as long as I can - it's OK so far...


    "No need to use a torrent, the latest gmap folder is available in the link for NA 2016.10 immediately above in my previous post. The PC Install is available from Post #1 there, 11 rar parts from ZippyShare can be simultaneously downloaded quickly and safely, then extract the rar files to find 'City Navigator North America NT 2016.10.gmap' unlock that and place it according to your OS [refer to the Maps downloading hints thread again]. Hook up your 376C and choose the parts of the US you want with MI..."


    Duh.

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    LOL! Arizonan humor is as dry as the climate there! Seeing you gave me a giggle, if you tell me exactly what free-space is in your datacard and what are the most important US map parts for you i'll make an unlocked image from 2016.10 NA gmap and a flashing kit for you to painlessly send it to the datacard in your GPSMAP276C [I'm guessing the stretch over the state line between Las Vegas and Pahrump wouldn't be needed ]. Cost you a beer or 10 if i ever get back to AZ though mate.

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    "Cost you a beer or 10 if i ever get back to AZ though mate."


    Sure, I'd be glad to, "mite"! An ol pal of mine moved to your faraway island, some little town called Sydney, and we're still in touch. She comes back here sometimes too. She's into sailing , and sailing off Sydney sounds so great. I used to go sailing with her when I lived back east, but mostly I was into canoeing and sea kayaking.

    Back to GPS...

    I've got a 512, a 256, and a 128 card all available. Mainly I'd like the new maps for the southwest US - all of Arizona, southern California, southern Nevada up past Death Valley, California, and even southern Utah and New Mexico and maybe even Texas - but the main places I'd like are Arizona and southern California and southern Nevada.

    I'll click on your link above and see if I can learn something, which I doubt.



    Thanks again!

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    OK, standby 'Cobber' i'll get on to it asap and make it with as much map data as possible. BTW it's the Kiwis wot say some vowels funny: kuds for kids; fush 'n' chups [that's easy]; Glinda for Glenda etc. We don't talk funny at all in Oz [but you lot Stateside sure do ].

    PS: Steak'n'kidney sucks. BrisVegas rocks. [born in Sydney, raised in Brisbane].
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    What's that last line, something like Cockney rhyming slang? And yes you do talk funny. Very. But don't feel too bad. They don't know how to talk good like us mugs from New York out here in Arizona either. That's where I'm from originally, see, Noo Yawk. All I gotta do is say the woid dog or coffee, pronounced, of course, dawg and cawfee, and the joiks start laughing to cover up their embarrassment over not knowing how to talk good, like me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    G'day dersuuzala. welcome to GPS Power.

    Garmin's definition of 'Lifetime' changes to suit them from time to time. This is their latest incarnation of it [the 'fine print', note 1]:
    ...


    As always, the rule is the finer the print the more important the message...and was that little disclaimer even there originally?

    "¹If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately) or if your Garmin product comes bundled with a nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription, you will receive map data updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. "

    The word "lifetime" has an inherent meaning. If they wanted to say "buy map updates for as long as we are making them available" they should have said that in the big print. I'll have to get my team of Philadelphia lawyers on the case. When I first found out about this I irately called them up. The Garmin guy (they seem to actually answer the phones in a reasonable time these days, unlike a few years ago when the wait might have been closer to an hour...but in their earliest days their service was famous. Once my Model 2 broke and I called up and the Garmin guy said don't worry about it, we'll just send you the newest model, the 2+, for free, and he did!) said that the best they can do for me is offer me a 10% discount on a new Garmin, but that must be almost a year ago now, so I don't even know if they are still offering me that.

    I had the 176 before the 276 - and before that I had Garmins going back to the Model 2 (the model numbers were simpler then), back before most people even knew what GPS was, and long before maps. I dropped the 176 and after that the screen wasn't quite as good as it was before, but it still works, and it had certain advantages over the 276, namely it could be seen in sunlight without the backlight on. I had an earlier 276 which I had repaired by Garmin too. The buttons became very creaky. That's happening a bit on my current 276 too, so its lifetime may be coming to an end anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dersuuzala View Post
    What's that last line, something like Cockney rhyming slang? And yes you do talk funny. Very. But don't feel too bad. They don't know how to talk good like us mugs from New York out here in Arizona either. That's where I'm from originally, see, Noo Yawk. All I gotta do is say the woid dog or coffee, pronounced, of course, dawg and cawfee, and the joiks start laughing to cover up their embarrassment over not knowing how to talk good, like me.
    Yeah, "steak 'n' kidney" is rhyming slang. And yes, it's a Cockney hangover but it developed along different lines here and elsewhere. Been used by you Yanks too at least in the past, such as 'Bob Hope' for 'soap'. [I'll call you a Yank, now i know you're a Noo Yawker - 'dawg', 'cawfee', 'joiks'? Where ya from, The Bronx fercrissake?]. That soap one is maybe not even used there at all now, even in the military. According to my Dad [a WW2 veteren] it started up when the GIs 'invaded' Brissie [much earlier slang for Brisbane than BrisVegas] along with 'Dougie' [McArthur] back in the early '40s. It was still widely used back in the '60s when i did AU National Service and the open [no stalls] SAL blocks were equipped with community soap, so 'Pass the Bob Hope mate' was a common expression. By the way, we pronounce Brisbane as 'Brisbin', much as Arizonians will say 'Preskit' for Prescott - bit o' trivia for ya]. Rhyming slang seems to be disappearing from the younger generations' vocab though sadly, but the 'clipped' pronunciations live on.

    Quote Originally Posted by dersuuzala View Post
    As always, the rule is the finer the print the more important the message...and was that little disclaimer even there originally?

    "¹If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately) or if your Garmin product comes bundled with a nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription, you will receive map data updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. "
    Yes it was always there, but has been changed a little. e.g. 'when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com' was originally 'up to 4 times a year' i think from memory. 'Useful life' definition remains the same i think, and the big 'get out of jail-free card' is this: as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier 'cos they can shoot themselves in the foot by sacking HERE as the mapping data provider in the States and immediately avoiding all obligation to LM subscriptions. Dunno where they'd get decent US maps from then though. TT? Nuh! OSM? Oh please! What's left? Bing, Google, MapQuest. Effectively Zip!

    The word "lifetime" has an inherent meaning. If they wanted to say "buy map updates for as long as we are making them available" they should have said that in the big print. I'll have to get my team of Philadelphia lawyers on the case.
    Well, i doubt they're actually breaking any Trade Practice/Consumer Protection laws locally there or even worldwide. US and AU have pretty strict legislation of that type. Regardless, coming from a 'quasi-legal' business background i do regard the disclaimer as a weasel-worded copout which would blindside most average buyers, so maybe it's a bit 'sharp'. A good test of such legal scribbling is 'can it be easily understood by a reasonable person of normal intelligence'. The truth is that yes it can be imo, but only with some measure of deeper analysis to get past the actual apparent 'LIFETIME' meaning [or its inherent meaning, as you called it]. In isolation that can be regarded as absolute i.e 'as long as the device works', whereas in truth it's far more qualified than that. Of course there's an obligation on interested purchasers to read and understand all conditions of a potential and actual 'sale contract' just as there's a obligation on the seller to disclose any conditions by making them easily accessible and clearly understandable prior to any commitment from a potential buyer. Any contract, verbal or written, requires offer and acceptance. Garmin is making an offer to sell under certain conditions, it's a buyer's obligation to understand the conditions before finally committing by accepting the offer to sell and with that it's conditions. An interesting bit of history about that disclaimer, it used to be hidden away behind the 'Requirements' tag on the individual country's nüMaps Maps page. Now it's at least not only upfront on the generic nüMaps Lifetime page [fine print] but also on the default 'Overview' tab of each individual nüMaps page with a hyperlink [again, fine print] '¹Lifetime Maps Terms & Conditions' which links to a relatively big print Lifetime Maps Terms and Conditions [got 'LM Disclaimer' in the url too]:
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    Methinks they got kicked in the legal gonies by someone and needed to at least make it more easily found. The other general requirement for a Disclaimer is that it doesn't attempt to disclaim entirely or almost so, i.e. to particularly benefit one party unjustly or unfairly over the other and especially when there is a [perceived] imbalance of power [that's usually the seller over the buyer of course]. I doubt it fails that test really either, Garmin could make a good case that they are unable to guarantee 'forever' that an uncontrollable 3rd party [the map provider] would always be able or prepared to continue with supply ad infinitum, or for that matter continue supply at a reasonable price. It might fail if Garmin chose for no good reason otherwise to simply unilaterally terminate the map provider's agreement to supply though. However i'm only an Aussie Bush Lawyer, not a Philadelphia one [in neither the complimentary older or derogatory newer version of the term].

    When I first found out about this I irately called them up. The Garmin guy (they seem to actually answer the phones in a reasonable time these days, unlike a few years ago when the wait might have been closer to an hour...but in their earliest days their service was famous. Once my Model 2 broke and I called up and the Garmin guy said don't worry about it, we'll just send you the newest model, the 2+, for free, and he did!) said that the best they can do for me is offer me a 10% discount on a new Garmin, but that must be almost a year ago now, so I don't even know if they are still offering me that.
    The 10% off by them is a furphy anyway [aussie slang again, google it ]. That's 10% off the 'rack rate', full retail price. Most retailers will better that anyway and Garmin laughs all the way to the bank if you take them up on that because they're selling to retailers between 25 and 33% less than recommend retail anyway i reckon. Garmin has changed a lot since those early days when they were wanting to build up brand loyalty, along with word-of-mouth and repeat business. They're now a huge corporation and they've become quite impersonal compared to the good ol' days.

    I had the 176 before the 276 - and before that I had Garmins going back to the Model 2 (the model numbers were simpler then), back before most people even knew what GPS was, and long before maps. I dropped the 176 and after that the screen wasn't quite as good as it was before, but it still works, and it had certain advantages over the 276, namely it could be seen in sunlight without the backlight on. I had an earlier 276 which I had repaired by Garmin too. The buttons became very creaky. That's happening a bit on my current 276 too, so its lifetime may be coming to an end anyway.
    Well, as you know they've got you on the device memory 'limitation' anyway but i would go down fighting on that. It's possible to put a reasonable chunk of the US on a 512MB DataCard and unless you're crisscrossing the States regularly that's all most ppl need in memory to get their wider local surrounds. I'd be sending a very stiff letter stating exactly that and saying your device operates perfectly for the use you wish to make of it which is only for local navigating, and that you have several DataCards anyway if you needed to make a longer trip so can put extra data on another card using MapInstall to swap out cards mid-trip in the unlikely event you need to venture far afield. So as far as you're concerned the device does have sufficient memory for your purposes and who are they to decide that it doesn't in your case? Might work.

    Moved our sh*t over here, this stuff was way too OT even for me back in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. I'll get around to your map in the next couple of days .
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    " I'll get around to your map in the next couple of days "

    Thank again, mate!
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    OK here we go, your flash kit's done [a day late, sorry]:
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    I've made the image file under 500MB so that it'll fit for sure on your 512MB DataCard, this is the area covered by the map:

    MI AZ surrounds

    I've tested this process on an old StreetPilot c310. That's the only unit i have which stores gmapsupp.img on a media card [SD for SP c3x0 units] as region 10 and which will also read NT maps. It worked fine after taking well over 30 mins to load with WebUpdater. Note that this will overwrite any map presently on the DataCard.

    How to:

    • Ensure you have WebUpdater installed in the Garmin root folder on your PC's C drive, i.e. C:\Garmin\WebUpdater\WebUpdater.exe [only in that exact location or this won't work]. If not, install it now: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].
    • Extract the test.rar to root of your C drive [only there].
    • Open test folder to find 'gmapsupp.img' and 'Install_gmapsupp.bat' files and leave visible.
    • Connect your unit [with the 512MB DataCard inserted] to your PC.
    • When you hear the Windows device connection tone, double-click 'Install_gmapsupp.bat' to start the flash.
    • Go for a walk or file your toenails for about half and hour.
    • When the flash finishes you should have the new 2016.10 map in your unit.

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    Hey, thanks, mate! I'll try it later.

    PS I put up a bigger response before, but then I figured I'm already off on the wrong foot here with the Boss, getting a perfectly good thread - before I showed up - moved to the the verbal drivel file - right next to trash I think - so I better just stick with "just the fact's ma'am", as Jack Webb used to say on the old Dragnet shows, so I took it down (love that delete feature...I need one for real life). I owe you a bunch of beers now, if you ever drive the back roads over here from steak n kidney or take the under ocean train tunnel here to the Arid Zone.

 

 
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