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    I'll post the down and dirty here as, in the situation of a bricked device, you are looking for answers. The story will follow in additional posts for those curious or requiring more detail...

    First and foremost, I found the Drivesmart 70 to respond as all of the info on this site describes for the Nuvi units. The 'Cure', Updater, SD card Update.txt commands... everything I read here for the Nuvi worked on my Drivesmart 70. I found the Drivesmart 70 to be a 2268. I also found the 'Cure' almost impossible to find on the web- join this forum and save yourself a ton of searching.

    I stupidly bricked my device when it was first plugged into Windows 10. Windows said that it looked like the storage might be damaged and did I want Windows to scan and fix it? I missed the 'and fix it' and clicked on yes. Windows scanned, said there was some problem and that it was fixed. After that, GarminExperss could not detect the unit. Windows saw it as a mass storage device. I unplugged the unit, turned it on, and it froze on the Warning screen. If I agreed, it froze. If I let it time out, it froze.

    The fix was following the instructions in this post- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    After following these instructions, my unit booted all the way up and I was able to connect to GarminExpress to update software and maps. It was then a long slog to reassemble the history, find my custom vehicles, Dr. Nightmare's voice (I call him Lurch), and restore from my last update.

    I'll share the details in the following posts for reference in case someone finds them useful, or to add details because the assumption for this post is that you made it this far and could enter between MTP and Mass Storage Mode. I found that a lot of my research was because specific instructions were not clear to me and it took a bit to educate myself on how these things work.

    A big hats off to this forum and those kind enough to share their knowledge. Providing the wealth of information here made my device recovery so very much successful...
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    Good you managed to fix it without further help.

    However for other users reading the above post, there's a document linked in initial post of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] which may save some time searching for tips. That thread is prominently mentioned along with kunix's Cure3 thread in initial post of the Sticky thread: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

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    Thanks Butters- these links are priceless. There is another I am searching for that perhaps you know where it might be? It details using the SD card to have Garmin Express load to it? As I remember, you put a folder named Garmin on the SD and then inside of that folder, you place the file: GarminDevice.xml. Garmin Express will then see the SD card and load the file: GUPDATE.GCD onto the SD card. The GarminDevice.xml needs to be from the device that GUPDATE.GCD applies to. Anyway, I'll post the details below as promised...

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    It all began when I connected to Windows 10 for the first time. I run Manjaro Linux on my machines so to connect to the Garmin, I use VirtualBox. This has worked fine with a Windows 7 virtual machine in the past. I was already working on a Windows 10 virtual machine locally so for convenience, I connected the Garmin to that. Wondows 10 indicated the Garmin storage was damaged and did I want Windows to fix it? As I said before, I stupidly clicked on yes. Windows said it was fixed but the device bounced in and out of the virtual machine. Disconnecting and turning the device on revealed that something was bad wrong. My Drivesmart 70 would boot to the warning screen and freeze no matter if I agreed or just let it time out. A quick Google search came up with references to some strange 'Cure', a universal firmware patcher of some sort, and a ton of cryptic solutions involving some kind of update.txt with poorly explained commands to be entered into this text file. Almost everything required joining a forum and referenced Nuvi devices almost exclusively. I joined what forums I could and waited for this one to send a confirmation email. I also searched all over for this 'Cure' software and actually found a copy in some obscure corner of the internet. When extracted, it turned out to be all in Polish. After reading a few posts, I was able to get my device to briefly go into some kind of loading software condition but still unable to get it to boot. I had also moved to a Windows 10 laptop to ensure my issue was not related to anything with my virtual machine. At this point I contacted Garmin:

    Web Self-Service Email Form Submission

    Description: I am unable to update my Drivesmart 70. Map Update successfully loaded the current map on my device but Garmin Express only shows Invalid Chart when it searches for my device. The Software Update program indicates the software is current at 6.0. I could only get Software Update to recognize the device by holding the upper corner on power up and the device display "system" and then "loading". Windows shows the device as two USB drives when the computer connection is white on the device display but then only shows the device as a windows device (Garmin Drivesmart 70) when the computer connection is orange on the device display. When the computer connection is orange on the device display, Garmin Express does not recognize any device on the computer. This all started when I stupidly allowed Windows to 'fix' the device so it would read properly.
    Product: Garmin Express

    Garmin replied within a day:

    Hello*Michael,
    It sounds like Garmin Express is thinking you have a marine device since it's saying Invalid Chart. I would remove the device and add it back to Garmin Express.*
    Adding and Removing Devices in Garmin Express
    Please try just connecting the device (orange screen) first. If that doesn't work to add the device try the steps you did before that the computer recognized the device.*
    Thank you for choosing Garmin,

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    Last edited by tronfxr; 11th December 2022 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Corrected is to in some corner

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    I replied again to Garmin:

    Hello -Tech #1-,

    Thank you for replying so quickly.
    It would seem that my description of the problem was not as specific as it probably should have been.
    Everything I have described is with a fresh Garmin Experss installed, no devices, and when selecting add a new device.
    The issue of invalid chart is in fact when the white computer icon is displayed on the device.
    When the orange icon is displayed, Garmin Express replies that no device was found.
    I am puzzeled that Windows recognizes the device as a Garmin device when the device icon is orange but it is not recognized in this state as a USB device.
    Is there some missing file that registers a Garmin device as a USB device so that Garmin Express will add it back in?
    Many thanks,
    Mike

    To which another tech replied with some useful information:

    Hello,

    Your unit is a MTP device. This link explains details about how the unit functions when it shows the orange icon (MTP). Automotive Devices that Go Into Mass Storage Mode or MTP Mode when Connected to the Computer

    Although map and software updates can be done while in the default MTP mode, there may be instances when you need to put your device in mass storage mode for troubleshooting. To Put an MTP Device into Mass Storage Mode:

    Touch*Volume
    Touch and hold the*upper right corner*of the screen until*the*Diagnostics Page*appears
    Touch*MTP Settings*(you may need to scroll down)
    Touch*Configuration and Settings*on some devices before getting the option for MTP Settings
    Touch*Mass Storage Single Session
    Touch*Save

    The device will now go into mass storage mode when connected. After being disconnected from the computer, it will go back into MTP mode when connected again.*

    If Mass Storage is selected in step #4, the device will stay in Mass Storage mode even after it restarts. This can be changed by going back through steps 1-5.

    If there is a SD card in the unit, removing the SD card from the unit can make a difference.*

    If the device is still not detected by Garmin applications, follow the additional steps below:
    If the Garmin device is recognized by the computer but the Garmin application will not detect the device:

    Ensure that there is enough free space on the device to generate the GarminDevice.xml

    Right-click on the Garmin Device
    For MTP devices, first, double-click the Garmin Device and then right-click*Internal Storage
    Click*Properties
    If*Free space*shows 0*bytes, delete unnecessary files from the device to free up space and restart the device
    Automotive devices:*Delete any unwanted language files from the*Voice,*Text, and*Help*folders on the device*
    Pictures (Screenshots)
    MP3s (if available)
    Voice Files (don't remove English files)
    Help Files (don't remove English files)
    Keyboard Files (don't remove English files)
    Text Files (don't remove English files)
    Archive Files (located in GPX folder)
    Vehicle Files (keep at least one)
    NOTE:*The device must be power cycled after these files have been removed before trying Garmin Express again.

    Is there some missing file that registers a Garmin device as a USB device so that Garmin Express will add it back in?*

    If there is enough free space but the device is not detected, it could be due to a corrupted GarminDevice.xml file. In order to correct this issue the Garmindevice.xml file will need to be deleted from the device.

    Connect the Garmin*device to the computer
    Open File Explorer by pressing the*Windows key + E*on the keyboard
    Click*This PC*in the left navigation pane (Windows 10 only)
    Open the Garmin or nuvi drive
    Open the*Internal Storage*folder
    If there is no Internal Storage folder, skip this step
    Open the*Garmin*folder
    Right-click on the*GarminDevice.xml*file
    Click*Delete
    Unplug the device from the computer

    NOTE:*The device must be power cycled after the Garmindevice.xml file has been removed before trying Garmin Express again.
    The device should be now be recognized by Garmin applications. If the device is still not recognized by the computer or Garmin applications, try a different computer.*

    -Tech #2-
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    And my reply:

    Hello -Tech #2-,

    Many thanks for this information. This gave me some good troubleshooting angles and the ability to reply with more accurate information.
    I realized after reading your email that I neglected to mention that the device does not boot to any operational state. The device only powers into Mass Storage Mode or MTP mode.
    The garmindevice.xml file was missing and I could not find it in either mode. I did find this file in a backup folder and manually copied it to the device and the chip. This made no difference.
    MapUpdate and Basecamp both seem to see the device but Garmin Express will only indicate invalid chart in Mass Storage Mode. Garmin Express does not see the device in MTP mode.
    I tried removing the drivers in Windows 10 and reinstall them. The result is that Windows 10 now sees the device in Mass Storage Mode only. I am working on reloading the Garmin drivers but so far have not been able to get Windows 10 to use the Garmin drivers. This is also the case on a different computer running Windows 7. The device now only starts in Mass Storage Mode. I have to manually force into MTP mode but it will not remain in MTP as it did before. I believe this is related to the Windows drivers.

    WebUpdater will see the device in MTP mode but I have to restart the device twice- once for WebUpdater to recognize the device (MTP Mode). The device drops out of MTP mode before I can get to the update window. Just before the update window, I restart the device in MTP mode, WebUpdater starts to download and then indicates the download file is corrupt and quits.

    I have read on the web that I need to reformat the device with RMPrepUSB but am worried this will make things worse.

    Your help is greatly appreciated.
    Many thanks,
    Mike

    The Garmin reply was the final contact with the Garmin support team:

    Hello,

    Never format the unit. It will be unusable. The .xml file should be removed in the troubleshooting steps. The .xml file is written on the unit when it is recognized by Garmin Express.

    Is there a SD card inserted in the unit? Did you try removing the SD card then connecting the device to the computer?
    When the unit is unplugged, and on battery it should not show garmin.com/express and the connection image. If this happens, press and hold the power button until the unit turns of and turn it back on.*
    What happens to the unit when it is connected to the vehicle power cable in the car?*
    Did you try performing a master reset?

    Note:*A master reset will erase all favorites2*and will restore your device to the default factory settings. To back up the favorites to the computer, see*Backing up, Restoring, or Transferring Saved Data on Garmin Automotive Devices*.

    Touch*View Map
    Touch the*Speed icon
    Touch and hold the*speedometer*for approximately 5 seconds
    Release your touch when the Diagnostics Page displays
    Touch*Clear all user data
    Touch*Yes*when prompted to "Erase all user data?"

    The device will now be reset. Follow the on-screen prompts, then place the device in an area with a clear view of the sky until it acquires satellites.

    2Although the master reset will erase all saved favorites, any loaded custom points of interest will remain intact on the device.

    If the Windows computer "fix" or formatted the unit, it may need to be replaced. Service for this product is no longer available. We are able to offer a 20% discount of the MSRP on our current generation products (within product family). This offer cannot be combined with current sales or other offers.*

    If*interested in the offer, please reply to confirm with the information below:

    The device you would like to purchase
    Shipping Country:
    Your current device's Unit ID or Serial Number: 4GW004036*

    Thank you for choosing Garmin,

    -Tech #2-Product Support
    Garmin International

    And my final reply:

    Thanks for the quick reply.
    When I click on the transferring files link it says I do not have permissions and to ask for access with this number- 76dcf4a64b287a90.
    I cannot get into the device so a master reset is impossible.
    I tried with and without the SD to no avail.
    The device powers on directly to Mass Storage Mode when on battery and then powers off.
    Connected to vehicle power, the unit comes on in Mass Storage Mode and then turns off.
    I did stupidly allow Windows to "fix" the device. If it is indeed ruined, there is no loss then if I try reformatting and using the open source recovery tools on the web.
    I am surprised Garmin would allow Microsoft to ruin a Garmin device so easily. This being the case, I believe I will research units from competitors before investing as much again.
    Many thanks,
    Mike
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    ..... There is another I am searching for that perhaps you know where it might be? It details using the SD card to have Garmin Express load to it? As I remember, you put a folder named Garmin on the SD and then inside of that folder, you place the file: GarminDevice.xml. Garmin Express will then see the SD card and load the file: GUPDATE.GCD onto the SD card. .......
    I don't recall a specific thread for making what's often referred to as "a nuvi clone", or "Garmin stunt-double" as i call it. The steps you outlined in the above are correct and provided the XML file from the device is up to date, GarminExpress (usually) will recognize the USB device as the actual Garmin device and offer appropriate files accordingly. There are exceptions to that however if GE baulks then WebUpdater will work but only for firmware and software downloads and not of course for map files. Note however that the Garmin folder must be in the root of the card. If a .System folder is needed GarminExpress will create it however you can add one beforehand if you want: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. The card should be clean other than Garmin and .System root folders, best to format it to FAT32 beforehand. Use a card 32GB or less, larger cards are usually formatted exFAT but can be re-formatted to FAT32 in Windows. The problem you faced with Windows messing up the drivesmart's file system doesn't apply to media cards used in garmin devices. Always use only RMPrepUSB in Windows over the OS's inbuilt tool or any other 3rd party format tool for the internal memory of the device itself. Also never use a Mac or Linux machine to format a Garmin device. They all do it slightly differently, so to mangle an old saying about skinning a cat, "There's more than one way to format in FAT".

    Much of the verbose offerings in Garmin's email replies is either inaccurate or not applicable in your case. As for this gem:
    "Never format the unit. It will be unusable."
    HAHAHA ... Ahhh.... Garmin, Garmin, Garmin ... you are ever so prepared to let your service desk drones spew out partial truths and at times downright misinformation to the trusting and unsuspecting public. "Never" indicates 'not under any circumstances', clearly untrue. This is what they should tell you: "You should not unnecessarily format the unit. If it's already unusable due to an accidental previous inappropriate format or it has numerous file system corruptions (nonsense named files/folders that cannot be renamed or removed for example), then as a last resort (and after re-enabling Mass Storage Mode with cure firmware if required), a format should be done but only using RMPrepUSB with the correct settings. Otherwise just removing any corrupt files from the device is sufficient". Can't expect them to tell you that i suppose, never sell you a new device with 20% off RRP that way. Most discount retailers will offer the same device cheaper anyway in my experience and no shipping charges. BTW, about this quote: "Service for this product is no longer available" ... Service for an individual modern device never was available from Garmin directly, they have in the recent past only ever exchanged returned devices with a 'factory-refurbished' one of the same model and that policy still applies even to 'under-warranty' units. Out of warranty devices may qualify for their replacement program depending on re-furb availability but they hit you up for about 200 bucks plus shipping. The lack of real assistance usually issued by Garmin's "service" desk is the main reason ppl turn to forums like this one for genuine practical help. In fairness some of their service desk personnel are very knowledgeable and go out of their way to help with tailored advice.

    P.S. IMPORTANT: Note that your DS may not have a basemap despite being updated with GarmiExpress. Download one to the .System folder from here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Navigation may fail or be glitchy without a valid gmapbmap.img onboard the device, and high-level map scrolling will crash it.

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    I thought my device wasn't quite the same after recovery. I will check for the basemap- this info isn't obvious and is very much appreciated!

    To wrap up, after the Garmin encounter I searched GPSPower and what I learned from this forum turned out to be the key to fixing my bricked device. While in Windows, Kunix's Cure3 allowed me to switch my device into mass storage mode with the cure firmware and back to MTP mode with the original firmware. How useful this was wasn't obvious to me at first but I found it priceless in understanding how these devices work. I later discovered that Linux always opens the Garmin device in Mass Storage Mode. Windows is where you truly need the cure firmware so you don't have to switch from one computer to the other (real or virtual). Mass Storage Mode is critical to being able to access the device storage and remove/install files that you may or may not need. I did it probably hundreds of times without any ill effect. Using the 'Garmin stunt-double' technique mentioned above, the most current firmware (GUPDATE.gcd) was captured without having to guess if I had the right file or not. There was a GarminDevice.xml file in an old backup so I knew that was correct. There is a freeware program called XmlNotepad that made it possible to open GarminDevice.xml and verify my unit ID as well as change the file to show the current firmware (600). When converting GUPDATE.gcd to the cure .rgn file with the Cure3 software, Cure3 created a new folder (within the folder where Cure3 was located) and put the files inside that new folder. For me, when I selected the update software from within Cure3, update complained that it could not start. Moving the .rgn file into the same location as the updater software fixed that problem. I did read that for some, the name of this file may cause problems. I did not find this to be the case with my situation. I hit a wall at this point and figured I had to risk formatting and ruining my ruined device (thanks for that anxiety Garmin...). First, I formatted with my go to USB formatting app- SUSE Studio Imagewriter- to no avail. Then Rufus but Rufus couldn't detect the Garmin. Finally rmprepusb because I'm lazy and couldn't find an easy download. My first few download sites were full of Trojans and such- be careful. Formatting with the default settings on rmprepusb resulted in the same disappointment. More searching of this forum and I bumped into the post mentioned in the first post of this thread- how to format a Nuvi after using Kunix's cure. Following these instructions did the trick. The rest has been putting things back the way they were which has been a real challenge. Basemap helped a lot with transferring backup info back into my device. I tried just putting files in folders but that did not seem to work for me. Once my unit was working again, I backed up the NV ram using instructions from catymag here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. I wasn't sure if it would work on a Drivesmart 70 but it did. My newer device was set for region 154. I hope I never need it. It would be pretty cool to find a list of commands for this way of interfacing with the Garmin but I'm sure it would be a lot like the root terminal- With great power comes great responsibility. My current quest is to make sure I have a base map installed. The unit does seem somewhat different than I remember and the post from Butters (above) sheds some light on this. Having found this forum, searched it, read from those who really know, reading the questions from those who don't, has made my recovery possible. The cost of a new unit was probably spent in the time of the first few weeks of research. But when I formatted my unit and it came back to life, that was worth more that a handful of new units. Hats off to you all and a big thanks!!!
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