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    Solved. Formatted device and followed unbrick thread. Thx

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    Good result. Bootlooping devices are always difficult to catch preboot, persistence (and timing) is the key. However you didn't need to re-format it, GarminExpress was only asking you to update again because it reads the file named 'GarminDevice.xml' to determine whether updates are required. That file is only updated when the device reboots which yours couldn't do (cure firmware can't boot, that's by design), so the information on the XML file was old, i.e. from before it bricked. So in your case you needed only to load the original firmware after you updated with GE and let it boot normally to update the file.

    You have no need to try the following now, but this may be helpful for others: A bootloop bricking may be due to an interrupt occurring when maps are being being loaded by GarminExpress or otherwise, the incomplete faulty detail map .img file cannot be loaded when the device is started. You can see this watching the screen, 'Loading Maps' appears and then the device shuts off and re-attempts to boot over and over. This bootlooping may seem infinite, but sometimes it's not. By putting the device on charge using a charge source like a AC>5v DC power pack (not a PC) with minimum of 1 amp output current and leaving it for an extended time it may eventually fully boot. Without powering it down, it can then be connected to a PC and the map reloaded using GE or MapInstall or simply writing over the problem map with a known-good .img file. No loading cure firmware or re-format is required if it can be seen in Mass Storage Mode by PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters View Post
    By putting the device on charge using a charge source like a AC>5v DC power pack (not a PC) with minimum of 1 amp output current and leaving it for an extended time it may eventually fully boot.
    Yes, but why?
    Do not PM me with questions. That's what a forum is for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    Yes, but why?
    Ah Jeez! I usually get caned for saying too much. However, you Osiris pick on me for not explaining enough ..... I can't win.

    Short answer, I'm not sure why. But I think it's because eventually a boot cycle skips over loading maps and that's not by design, just a fluke. I've also seen healthy devices do that but rarely, where the map page doesn't have any roads or info showing just as if the device doesn't have a detail map loaded for the location. A re-booting of the misbehaving healthy device does fix that, provided it's because it's 'skipped' loading maps. Usually a hard-reset or clean nonvol is required which is because of a different problem again though, albeit the same symptoms with no map details.

    Happy now Mr Pedantic?

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    So it's just a long timeout and having AC power allow it to timeout. For now, an acceptable answer.
    BTW, I saw situation of "where the map page doesn't have any roads or info showing just as if the device doesn't have a detail map loaded for the location" once running Street Pilot on android. And I had to re-installed Street Pilot to fixed it.
    Do not PM me with questions. That's what a forum is for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris4isis View Post
    ........ For now, an acceptable answer.
    Wow. A crumb of appreciation from His Magesty's well-laden table. Thank you my liege.

    BTW, I saw situation of "where the map page doesn't have any roads or info showing just as if the device doesn't have a detail map loaded for the location" once running Street Pilot on android. And I had to re-installed Street Pilot to fixed it.
    Thanks be to God I know very little about SP on Andoid. However, if Garmin devices didn't have the comprehensive hard-reset or clear nonvol available they'd be frequently completely hosed because us aren't able to do anything meaningful with their OS. At least with Android, iOS and similar types of OSs including Windows it's possible to not only re-install software programs but of course customize, repair and even re-install the actual OS. Garmin doesn't let us anywhere near that far into their secrets of course, although the OS does appear to be Linux-based but very indirectly so. About time some smart coder did something about that isn't? Better than spending your time picking on a lowly journeyman you should be cracking G's closed OS. Good luck with that ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters View Post
    So in your case you needed only to load the original firmware after you updated with GE and let it boot normally to update the file.
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    This was my first idea, but I worried if this would work and wanted to be on save side following the entire unbricking process as described in the PDF in this forum.
    However, saved 75 euros ☺
    But I guess I have no an American Firmware, the speed limit info does not show German traffic signs.
    Can this be changed?

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    The 'Speed Limit Indicator' feature is from info contained in the detail map and the ability to display any posted speed limit is enabled in 2xx9 firmware. Some minor streets don't have the info in the map so the limit can't be shown, however ALL major European roads have the feature in HERE maps. All North & South American and European localized devices use the same firmware as do others like Australian, New Zealand, South African models. That firmware is known as US/EU generally and your device uses it. However, although some features can be default enabled/disabled by the Locale selected on initial setup or after reset, it would be surprising that selecting 'Germany' would disable SLI. If you haven't reset it since un-bricking it you should do a 'clear nonvol' to see if that fixes it. It's the immediate first aid for any device acting strangely: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

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    Reading your post again, it may be that you're asking about the style of the SLI rather than it's absence. If so, perhaps you have the first rather than the second of these images displaying:
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] If that's your problem, the 'sign' type is determined either by the map itself or the Locale selected and can't be changed by the user in settings.

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    correct.

    when i started the devide again after erasing, only american could be selected during first start.
    how to come back to european traffic sign style?

 

 
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