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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnfhbr View Post
    No, this is not the case, because the repackaging of subfiles is not the main in the real-NT format. Unknown bitstream compression algorithm - that's the main thing.
    Ahhh, that make more sense.
    Well, at least pseudo-nt will definitely work, because when they are converted they become regular non-nt maps.
    (or is it that pseudo-nt already works in old GPS garmin units?)

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    Garmin/GPS Systems GMod. Convert garmin .img pseudo-NT to non-NT? I know it's possible, but how?(SOLVED!!!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kunix View Post
    Try this one.
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    I've unlocked the "untouched" image with gimgunlock before processing it.
    Just loaded it to a CF card and the 2710 displays the map info correctly on start-up as "ity Navigator Australia & New Zealand NT 2014.20 -" [did you leave the 'C' off on purpose ,kunix? lol] but then the detail map is not shown on the screen, only the built-in basemap is visible indoors with GPS off. I'll let it acquire sats soon anyway, but that wont change anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnfhbr View Post
    No, this is not the case, because the repackaging of subfiles is not the main in the real-NT format. Unknown bitstream compression algorithm - that's the main thing.
    Ahhh, that make more sense. .......
    And is disconcerting ....
    Well, at least pseudo-nt will definitely work, because when they are converted they become regular non-nt maps.
    (or is it that pseudo-nt already works in old GPS garmin units?)
    I know practically nothing about map making, but is it correct that pseudo-NT [quasi-NT] are non-NT? I think that only NT capable devices can use pseudo-NT maps surely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    did you leave the 'C' off on purpose ,kunix? lol
    When joining the subfiles with GMapTool, I've added " - LITE" to the mapset name, which was too many, so GMapTool truncated the string.
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    And is disconcerting ....
    Well, it was expected. You know, new bitstream formats, etc.
    Wanna try pseudo-NT maps? They look like regular NT, but have "map created with cgpsmapper" string somewhere in copyrights in GMapTool's dump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    I know practically nothing about map making, but is it correct that pseudo-NT [quasi-NT] are non-NT? I think that only NT capable devices can use pseudo-NT maps surely.
    In pseudo-NT and NT maps data is stored inside GMP subfiles, unlike non-NT maps, where old good map subfiles are present separately (RGN, LBL, NET, ...).
    The difference between pseudo-NT and NT is how the map data is encoded: NT uses new encoding which is unknown to old devices, pseudo-NT uses old encoding.
    We can read pseudo-NT with mapedit, but we can't read NT (only points without addresses are loaded).

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    Thanks, i was joking about the 'ity' map [ity-bity, eng slang for tiny].

    I'd already tried a pseudo/quasi-NT map made from GMapTool in the 2710 previously, no go. Maybe i didn't do it right, here's what i did:
    Enable 'Experimental Option' under Options tab > Under Join tab check 'Convert to quasi-NT Format', fill 'Output file' & 'Mapset name' fields then press 'Join all'. Is that correct?
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    Neil
    No, converting to pseudo-NT was a bad idea, as old devices don't know anything about GMP subfiles. It is the opposite that we need to do, eliminating GMP subfiles.
    However, now we can take your pseudo-NT map and convert to non-NT (more precisely, "GMP-free") with process-gmp.
    It should work if the original map was non-NT (well, I guess it was, otherwise "convert to quais-NT Format" wouldn't work).

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    Could be i'm losing the plot, but really what's the point in taking a non-NT map [which is native to the device] and converting it to pseudo-NT, then making it 'GMP-free'. Even if the end product can be read, it still has the old mapping data from the original Non-NT map ....... am i missing something?
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    This time it's just a test. But if it's successful, you would be able to use pseudo-NT maps on your device after process-gmp-ing.
    Probably it's not that important for you, but some people have good pseudo-NT maps in their countries.

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    Ok, i understand. I'm happy to test it. There's a working link for the last non-NT AU map: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Post #9]. All the other links are dead i think.

    EDIT: I can upload an image file to Zippyshare or 1fitchier if you prefer.
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    But it's not pseudo-NT, it's non-NT. Yes, I can convert it to pseudo-NT, but then the test would be too "syntetic".
    Would you be able to test a map of some other area? Like Argentina? (Then I would convert mapear).

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    Sure, np. Happy to test anything.
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