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    Quote Originally Posted by sherco40 View Post
    Exact. Since January 3, 2012 , the products or devices that warn or inform of the location of radars are prohibited by law. But GPS devices are still authorised to indicate the location of the dangerous zones ...
    Are GPS allow to indicate the type of alerts (mobile, fixed, redlight, sectional, etc...) or just a single "dangerous zones" for all alerts?
    Cyclop alerts for France has changed to use different types from others countries.

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    Are GPS allow to indicate the type of alerts (mobile, fixed, redlight, sectional, etc...)
    No, GPS are not allowed to indicate any radar..
    GPS are only allowed to indicate "danger zones" and "speed limits".
    Danger zones are announced according to the type of the road: 4 km on highways, 2 km out of town and 300 meters in urban areas. Danger zones can be: Fixed radars, mobile radars areas, crossings, the road narrowed, bridges and tunnels, steep slopes, cornering reported dangerous, schools and summer camps, hospitals ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherco40 View Post
    No, GPS are not allowed to indicate any radar..
    GPS are only allowed to indicate "danger zones" and "speed limits".
    Danger zones are announced according to the type of the road: 4 km on highways, 2 km out of town and 300 meters in urban areas. Danger zones can be: Fixed radars, mobile radars areas, crossings, the road narrowed, bridges and tunnels, steep slopes, cornering reported dangerous, schools and summer camps, hospitals ...
    Thanks for the info, Cyclops for France only have two types: 13 and 14 (unlike other countries which do not use 13 and 14, but have many other types) Could 13 and 14 correspond to "danger zones" and "speed limits?" Is it possible to get coords of a "danger zones" and a "speed limits" so I can extract similar alert from Cyclop and check it's alert type?

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    You can download these files - it is latest pure Cyclops and first Dangerous Zones for France and you can try to compare it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giomen View Post
    You can download these files - it is latest pure Cyclops and first Dangerous Zones for France and you can try to compare it.

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    Help are needed to verify different alert types. There are still many problem to solved and questions left unanswered. I've collected stats for the oldest of above file. The alert type breakdown are

    05 = 2689 <- mobile
    09 = 1876 <- fixed
    0b = 529 <- redlight

    so it doesn't have sectional nor redlight+fixed, does this sound right? So before the law, France Cyclop has 3 type of alerts (specific), and after the law, it switched to 2 (generalized).

    Edit:

    The stats for 2nd oldest are

    12 = 4 <- no longer in recent Cyclop
    13 = 3
    14 = 1886

    And the stats for the least oldest are

    09 = 1
    12 = 4
    13 = 4
    14 = 1888

    which is interesting that it has 09 (suppose to be removed or converted to type 12,13 or 14) Hmmm, so now I have to figure out 3 (not 2) France specific alert type of values 12,13 and 14.

    The latest Cyclop for France uses only type 13 and 14.

    13 = 11
    14 = 3102
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    Redistribution of speed cameras in 2015 -France

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    Garmin POI : French Danger Areas (Radars) for Garmin GPS August 2015

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    I just got back from 10 days in France.

    How the French Danger Areas works is you never see the place where the speed cam is.

    It will warn you about 1 to 2 KMs before and about 1to 2 KMs after you pasted the speed cam.

    So you get this red bar the hold time telling you Danger Areas till you have long past the speed cam.

    You will also see a sign on the side of the road or highway before you get the warning on your GPS in most cases.
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    Hello,

    The picture shows the French system for a city whose distance from the danger zone is 300 m, 2 km road, 4 km motorway, the principle is always the same.
    We can notice that the radar is not always in the danger zone, it should be in the middle in theory.
    Garmin alert can see the end of the dangerous zone, but the speedcam is maybe 50 meters away.
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    If you are not careful, you will be entitled to the flash, the trap of the French system.

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