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    Default Garmin Nuvi 68 to Nuvi 67 SG/MY

    Hi All ,

    I'm using Nuvi 68 bought in USA but using mostly in Thailand , it's a very good GPS , but the thing is i cannot find Thai Keyboard even update in the Garmin Express to install Thai Keyboard , it will turn out to be all English keyboard anyway .

    And I cannot find the KEyboard file to replace in my Garmin .

    So I think is it possible if I can convert my Garmin Nuvi 68 , and flash it with Nuvi 67 SG/MY , I think that the hardware is the same , but in APAC Firmware , they should have the Thai Keyboard coming in the firmware so i want to try .

    Anyone can guide on this whether it will be a successful flash or not .
    Thank you very much .

    Best Regards,
    George

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    G'day George, It's theoretically possible if the PCB P/N's of the SG and US/EU devices match, see here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. If you don't know how to check the PCB P/N in the SG firmware please post a link to it and we can check it for you.

    US/EU have possible PCB P/Ns of 105-01925-00; 105-01925-02; 105-01926-00; 105-01926-02; 105-01926-10; 105-01916-00; 105-02067-00; 105-02340-00; 105-02310-00 and 105-01982-00. Check which PCB P/N your device has in it's hidden menu 'Version Information' page by holding the battery symbol for several seconds and then press the screen's lower right hand corner/Next until you reach the page. If you have one which is the same as one in the SG firmware then a cross-flash is perhaps possible using one of the methods below.

    Safest way to attempt the flash to SG is to use 'hybrid' firmware with the US/EU boot.bin and the remainder of SG fw, retaining the US/EU HWID of 2088. That gives the best chance to flash back if using SG is unsuccessful, however a full flash is also feasible but inherently more risky.
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    Hi Neil ,

    Thank you very much for the advises .

    I tried to flash with the "Hybrid" firmware like you suggested , after flashing ,it shows as SW Missing and it stucks at the garmin page , so i have to flash back to previous firmware to come back alive again . I keep all the HWID as 2088 , but still unsuccessful.

    I also tried finding the PCB P/Ns on my nuvi68 but seem like when i tried like you said , i will get stuck at the page that has moving color and when I press anyway on the screen it will have white dot on the screen , look like a test screen.
    So I cannot find the PCB P/N on my devices.

    Any other recommendations ? Or do you know whether any other models that will have same Keyboard Format that I can copy and use it ?

    Thank you very much Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    G'day George, It's theoretically possible if the PCB P/N's of the SG and US/EU devices match, see here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. If you don't know how to check the PCB P/N in the SG firmware please post a link to it and we can check it for you.

    US/EU have possible PCB P/Ns of 105-01925-00; 105-01925-02; 105-01926-00; 105-01926-02; 105-01926-10; 105-01916-00; 105-02067-00; 105-02340-00; 105-02310-00 and 105-01982-00. Check which PCB P/N your device has in it's hidden menu 'Version Information' page by holding the battery symbol for several seconds and then press the screen's lower right hand corner/Next until you reach the page. If you have one which is the same as one in the SG firmware then a cross-flash is perhaps possible using one of the methods below.

    Safest way to attempt the flash to SG is to use 'hybrid' firmware with the US/EU boot.bin and the remainder of SG fw, retaining the US/EU HWID of 2088. That gives the best chance to flash back if using SG is unsuccessful, however a full flash is also feasible but inherently more risky.

    Neil, I'm able to check the PCB P/N now , it's 105-02310-00 . Do you know what's the PCB P/N for Nuvi 67SG ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    ............... If you don't know how to check the PCB P/N in the SG firmware please post a link to it and we can check it for you.
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    That bit above probably got lost in the other info.

    If you haven't already made a 'nonvol' backup please do it before going any further. Your unit has it in region 154 not 41 and writes to microSD as 2:/ not 1:/ so use command rrgn154,2:/154.bin to dump it. See here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. See the current posts there by and replies to another user with an EU nuvi 68. Also do a complete files backup with the device set to 'Mass Storage Mode' and RWFS visible as explained there too.

    To see the PCB P/Ns in the SG fw, first extract the fw_all.bin from it then check it in a hex reader, in text search for 1.0.5.-. where '.' is joker character. If you don't get a match for your PCB P/N then abandon the project and instead try other units' Thai kb files with the US fw [*see below]. If you do see 105-02310-00 in SG then it means by the 'sw missing' message that the US boot.bin isn't capable of initiating the SG fw. You could try again to use US boot and HWID by first compressing all the other SG bin files as soing so may mean US boot.bin can then work. Use kunix's [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. If you use RGN_Tool to reassemble check very carefully that it does reallocate 'unknown.bin' [if present in SG fw] to region 158 [hex 9E] correctly. Safest would be to use his [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for that.

    Note that the native US Voice, Text and Keyboard files may not be compatible with Asian fw so it's best to remove them or re-name the folders if you haven't done so already. If any files are not compatible they can prevent it booting with SG fw onboard.

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    I check - for EU/US version the th_TH.kbd is really with English extended symbols. The required part-number is 006-D5293-00 (Thai Keyboards, nuvi55/65 Asia). I tried with WebUpdater but is no success, sorry. I think there is no this file on Garmin servers - only in device or Asia WebUpdater version is needed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    If you use RGN_Tool to reassemble check very carefully that it does reallocate 'unknown.bin' [if present in SG fw] to region 158 [hex 9E] correctly. Safest would be to use his [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for that.
    Hi Neil , as you mentioned , as I tried to use the RGNTools to put the "unknown.bin" into the firmware , it will be hex "7F" which is same as "resources.bin" , I cannot make it allocate it at region 158 (hex 9E) , any way to make this work ?
    I think it might be the reason why I cannot flash it successfully with SG firmware.

    Thank you very much ,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giomen View Post
    I check - for EU/US version the th_TH.kbd is really with English extended symbols. The required part-number is 006-D5293-00 (Thai Keyboards, nuvi55/65 Asia). I tried with WebUpdater but is no success, sorry. I think there is no this file on Garmin servers - only in device or Asia WebUpdater version is needed...
    Hi Giomen , Yeah I do try to look for that as well , i'll try to see if i can find the Asia Webupdater or not .
    Thank you .
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    Quote Originally Posted by burachat View Post
    Hi Neil , as you mentioned , as I tried to use the RGNTools to put the "unknown.bin" into the firmware , it will be hex "7F" which is same as "resources.bin" , I cannot make it allocate it at region 158 (hex 9E) , any way to make this work ?
    I think it might be the reason why I cannot flash it successfully with SG firmware.

    Thank you very much ,
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    As i said before, "Safest would be to use his gfw.exe" i.e. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

    I don't think that a misdirected region number would have been any part of the earlier problem before unless you'd done it the long-way-round and saved the bin files individually then re-compiled with RGN_Tool to make the first RGN [which in any case resulted in 'sw missing' message]. Converting SG directly from GCD to RGN and then loading only the US boot.bin to overwrite the SG boot.bin shouldn't have any effect on the region of 'unknown.bin', so if that's not how you made the hybrid fw before you could try it again to prove it.

    Making the compressed firmware however does indeed require you to separate the fw into bin files and recompile after compressing so definitely don't use RGN_Tool for that, only use gfw.exe.

    I'd also looked for a likely-compatible Asian TH kbd file previously and came up empty. Maybe some kind user will have one and post it for you to try with the US fw. Now Giomen's given you the part no. it might be easier to find one and try that before anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burachat View Post
    Hi Giomen , Yeah I do try to look for that as well , i'll try to see if i can find the Asia Webupdater or not .
    Thank you .
    George
    Make the next nonsense - open th_TH.kbd in text editor and try to replace the all of:

    label="A" output="A"
    label="a" output="a"

    with the first letter of your language or any others like this:

    label="ก" output="ก"
    label="ก" output="ก"

    After that you can try to perform searching for any object with this letter at the beginning of name...
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