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    In fact it is a simple procedure, I believe that anyone can do, the difficulties and solutions I mentioned earlier, has no secret. The "biggest" problem was entering in pre-boot, but there was a lack of knowledge itself. Enter by pressing and holding the Power button, only. Not tried with hybrid G5/x00 fw, only the full. In the next days I will do some field tests comparing the accuracy of track records with the Etrex 30, but apparently it's all perfect. Maybe that a tutorial for absolute lay people might be useful. After I make several tests and repeat the procedure will provide the "tutorial" ...
    Last edited by angelozip; 3rd December 2013 at 16:12.
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    May be I should change title to Approach G5 --> Oregon 200

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    I agree with the title change Caty. Flashing G5 [or x00] with the full x50 fw without knowing the x50 PCB P/N would be foolhardy and in any case because of the hardware limitations of the Approach G5 there would be little if any advantage, even if that conversion did work the safer way is retaining HWID and using x50 fw_all.bin combined with the x00 or even G5 boot.bin [success with hybrid fw is highly unlikely given the relative difference in size of the x00/G5 and x50 bin files, even without in-depth compare]. About the only possible potential feature is maybe Photo Navigation enabling i suppose. The G5 can never be more than an Oregon 200 in all probability simply because of its very basic hw, it doesn't even have MNEA 0183 capability, there's no electronic compass or barometric altimeter hw on board either so many features of the higher models physically cannot be enabled.

    So the title should be --> Oregon 200 because essentially a G5 can never be converted to any x50 or even a 300 for that matter.

    Angelo, what does the start-up screen now show as to Model identification? As to the tut, yes the whole idea is for lay users who lack the skills and/or courage to muddle thru without a 'step-by-step' guide. This should include all the basic precautions possible of course including NV region backup. You could link the tut post in Post #1 or just add it as an edit into the starting post if you like.

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    I agree with you, Neil, for the reasons stated, but I'm not sure that the hardware is exactly the same as the Oregon 200, despite having never handled this model. What gives is to know which belongs to the same family of Oregons 200/300/400, not only for PCB P/N, but by the hardware ID 374 ... a bit old. By the lack of electronic compass and barometer, the system fw may have classified Approach as Oregon 200, since it is the only model of the family who do not have these items of hardware. The Approach has differences, the most noticeable is the internal memory: 963 MB (1,009,778,688 bytes) while the Oregon 200 has only 24 MB and the other Oregons 850 MB, which is a good hint that can be a castrated brother a superior model. I get that he is very fast, has very good screen visibility, great satellite reception and accuracy. In fact I liked it so much that I intend to keep it, despite not having compass and barometer.
    I've had an Oregon 550 (whose screen was bad of view) and an Oregon 450 of the latest series, with good visibility screen (similar to that Approach), evidence that may not be exactly the hardware of Oregon 200. In addition, Approach was originally an expensive device and destined for a demanding public (golf players), so I think unlikely that Garmin has just changed the system of cheaper model of Oregon line to sell expensive for a public “refined”. Anyway on the start-up screen show as Oregon 200 Model identification, but do not know if this is the final clue. I do not intend to internally handle this unit, but soon I will buy another and disassemble and check the inside. Surely the best way to clarify our doubts. If you or someone you know that a website with pictures of the inside of some Oregon model would be great to be able to compare.
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    anyone else performed this with the approach?

    I PMed angelo and he said he'll work on a tut, but i was exploring myself. got into software is missing stage so i'm not sure what else to do from here haha

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    Use kunix's cure to go back to original firmware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catymag View Post
    Use kunix's cure to go back to original firmware.
    i tried that a few times. kept getting errors from windows about the updater program. pc never found it has storage after the many attempts of using the cure. just goes from "software loading" to "system software missing" but never registers as a storage.. i'm a n00b so i will keep looking around, but it looks like it's just going back and forth with some issue i'm overlooking

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    Which error do you get from Updater.exe, does it begin to flash ?
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    actually, i fidgeted with it after dinner.. moved it to another usb port and it seemed to work.

    going to test it out once i'm outside the city as i'm surrounded by buildings downtown

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    Back to my initial problem ..
    Some time ago I decided to sell the Approach with the original firmware: I installed normally and everything worked well. Selling attempt frustrated and so I decided to reinstall the Oregon fw, but found a problem that I could not solve so far: I can not get in way of pre-boot by no means and therefore can not install the Oregon firmware (but I can reinstall the Approach firmware by Webupdater, no issues). I had backup some regions of Approach (rgn 5, 14, 16, 41) and I tried to reinstall by the SD. Curiously all regions were installed normally less the rgn5 (boot block).
    Anyway, the problem seems to be blocking of rgn 5.
    If anyone has any tips, I appreciate it..

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    Approach Software Version 3.70, UID: 374xxxxxxx, HWID: 374xxxxxxx
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    Parsing "xrgn,5,1:/Garmin/Backup/5_BKP.bin"
    Error
    Parsing "reboot"
    Success
    Last edited by angelozip; 24th October 2016 at 04:28.
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