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    That would be nice with two sd cards for that.

    I think I need help as well with the files and how to import and export from my device.

    I did not find anything regarding Astro in the threads above

    Is it possible to get instructions for how to copy files to the sd card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pallvis View Post
    Does this mean we can make one SD card with files for converting the unit from US to Nordic and one card with files to convert the opposite way? I have both US and Nordic units if anyone can help me with the procedure
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    That would be nice with two sd cards for that.

    I think I need help as well with the files and how to import and export from my device.

    I did not find anything regarding Astro in the threads above

    Is it possible to get instructions for how to copy files to the sd card?
    Guys, please read the thread. The procedure for converting an Astro from US to Nordic or vice versa is set out in Post 33. There is also a warning in Posts 31 and 42 regarding using a US device in another country. The reason that frequencies are exclusively reserved for certain applications is quite simple and should really be self-explanatory. It is not legal to use US Astro collars in Nordic countries because the devices may interfere with an entirely different type of device operating on it's allocated frequency. Think of the consequences, both practical and legal, of that if your 'innocent' hunting activities causes a failure of some essential service communication and the source of the interference is traced back to you. The cost to you may be considerable, particularly if the results are disastrous. No one helping here is condoning the use of any US device/collars in the Nordics under any circumstances. If you want to make a US Astro 320 into Nordic by cloning a friend's localised unit then that is relatively harmless. Ditto if you wish to convert Nordic to US to use that unit in the States. However of course then you have the problem of the useless collars.
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    Thanks.

    It is no problem to use the us version in the Nordic. Trust me.
    But thanks for the heads up,

    I'll read again and see if I can figure it out.

    Cheers

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    I'm totally unsure of the law elsewhere, so if you are absolutely certain you are not breaking any law by transmitting in a frequency band reserved for other purposes then go for it. The conversion's at your own risk of course. Some countries undoubtedly have reserved frequencies which are not publicized as such but it is still unlawful to use them for other purposes.
    In your position i would be seeking prior clearance to use the frequency from the relevant authority.
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    Agree with Neil. Check this out:
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    Using the US DC collars is illegal in EU as they are the transmitters not the astro its self. Astro is just a receiver. (The correct word is Simplex transmission - or one way communication.)The written conversions just set astro to receive the eu frequencies or visa verse.

    BTW I haven't read someone being cough in EU by the authorities for using an US DC collar in EU as it can freely be imported from the States. But as Neil wrote keep it in mind.

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    Thanks guys.

    It is better to figure out how I can help my friend turn his US device to a legal EU device.
    I'll better for both of us.

    Thanks again.

    Is it any risk to brick my device when I export my files to the sd card?
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    @Mattedd
    Have another look thru the thread to ensure you are comfortable doing this. Read in particular my [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] above. It refers you back to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] where there is a 'mini tut' for changing the localisation of the Astro [it's the same procedure for US>EU for EU>US but in reverse so there is a way back] and there are links in that post to other threads detailing the copying of regions and writing to them. Thoroughly read the linked threads too before you start so that you understand the procedure and any risk, but this quote from #33 sums that up:
    Doing the dump/backup is as safe as houses, it's writing to the regions that's a bit risky if you're inexperienced.
    If you convert your friend's US device, it would of course then have the Unit ID of the Nordic device [yours i suppose] from which it's copied. If that's not a problem for either of you then go ahead. The US DC's will no longer work with the converted Astro of course. As ddabcd277 points out above, it is the collars which are transmitting on the unauthorised frequency. Or you can take ddabcd277 up on his [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] to swap UIDs, his US for your Nordic and run the risk of using any US collars in your possession.

    On the subject of importing the US collars, the fact that the import of any device is not prohibited doesn't mean its USE is not prohibited. This applies to many things such as Radar Detectors for instance. In AU as a country it is not a problem to import them, but in many Australian States/Territories it is illegal to use them or to even have one in your car whether in use or not. Your local laws may be silent on the import and possession of a US DC, but prohibit turning it on or even putting it on a dog whether it's active or not. 'The Law is an Ass' principle ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
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    Have another look thru the thread to ensure you are comfortable doing this. Read in particular my [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] above. It refers you back to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] where there is a 'mini tut' for changing the localisation of the Astro [it's the same procedure for US>EU for EU>US but in reverse so there is a way back] and there are links in that post to other threads detailing the copying of regions and writing to them. Thoroughly read the linked threads too before you start so that you understand the procedure and any risk, but this quote from #33 sums that up:

    If you convert your friend's US device, it would of course then have the Unit ID of the Nordic device [yours i suppose] from which it's copied. If that's not a problem for either of you then go ahead. The US DC's will no longer work with the converted Astro of course. As ddabcd277 points out above, it is the collars which are transmitting on the unauthorised frequency. Or you can take ddabcd277 up on his [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] to swap UIDs, his US for your Nordic and run the risk of using any US collars in your possession.

    On the subject of importing the US collars, the fact that the import of any device is not prohibited doesn't mean its USE is not prohibited. This applies to many things such as Radar Detectors for instance. In AU as a country it is not a problem to import them, but in many Australian States/Territories it is illegal to use them or to even have one in your car whether in use or not. Your local laws may be silent on the import and possession of a US DC, but prohibit turning it on or even putting it on a dog whether it's active or not. 'The Law is an Ass' principle ....
    Thanks Neil

    I will convert his to a Nordic and then use Nordic DC.
    But also do an SD card so it can be converted back when he needs to.
    We have Nordic DCs as well so that is ok.

    Thanks again :-)

    ///Mattias

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    After the conversion perform a hard reset and update the Astro to the latest 3.30 if it is not updated.

    As I wrote I have done this only once to a friend Astro 320 imported from US. Till now he has not complained. Of course nothing is 100% sure with Garmin. Keep the old US files if something happens to revert back.

    BTW: If everything is working is after a couple of mounts of tests better resell the US collars and buy Nordics collars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddabcd277 View Post
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    Yes, works. Both regions (41 and 34) from EU Astro (in dodde case Nordics) should be uploaded to the US and voala. In fact it doesn't matter from which EU Astro. All Astro 320 have same hardware and same firmware. They are just receivers. Just they should be set on which frequencies to receive. (changing 34 and 41) Unfortunatelly, the id is from the copied. Coudn't be changed. Or I coudnt. 34 in Astros 320 is also crypted. But both regions together should be changed. The guy also has to make back up of the orginal rgns but I didn;t had time to explain. Simple and easy. 2 minutes max + an SD card. Garmin are liars...

    P.P: Regarding the Bark detection I don't know. In EU software is limited. Seems it is limited in the FW of the DCs only. I don't know. Experts should say.
    Hello

    i try this one more time today with out any luck , there was firmware 3,40 on both units, but my device did not found the collar same as last time i did a try , maybe i just have to buy a Nordic

 

 
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