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    Hi ErMonter, your experience with this may be valuable to solving this issue. It's clear that the individual fw [be it US or EU] does not contain voice files [as such] of course. What is needed by ppl wanting to use US units with EU fw is a method to load the voice file/s. Without them any Garmin device will be 'mute', including all modern units and older ones closely related to GW navis such as StreetPilots. Those can be flashed to the correct region [region 11 of nv?] with voice files made as *rgn files via updater.exe or even further packed as *.exe. That isn't possible with GW navis afaik, but is there a EU 'language pack' of some kind, issued as an update perhaps, that could be flashed after the EU fw has been loaded? If such a pack exists, It was probably issued as a gupdate.gcd, just as carlinux mused in Post #99 for loading voices using a 'temporary gupdate.gcd'.
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    To my knowledge, Honda has not released an update of voices ever, it has only been 2 updates 2.30 and 2.60.
    The 2.30 update I have not been able to find to see if there are voices in the.

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    Que yo sepa, Honda no ha sacado nunca una actualizacion de voces, solo ha habido 2 updates 2.30 y 2.60.
    El update 2.30 no he sido capaz de encontrarlo para ver si hay voces en el.

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    Thanks ErMonter, that would explain why someone is able to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for a fw mod to enable voices for US>EU convert units. Without a 'language pack' to flash, serious work would need to be done on the fw.
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    Can anyone show me the guy who sells that Honda Goldwing firmware mod? I'm curious..

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    Hello,
    @ErMonter, what you say is right, but the point is that 'voice' is not an official upgrade nor an update. I hope turboccc can confirm but IMHO GUPDATE.GCD is only a container (as you can consider 'autoexec.bat' in your old PC), bootstrapped by the unit when you need to send in spcific RGN to the eprom. 0800/0C is the bootloader, 0E is the main firmware aka navigation software and so on. There is no needs for Honda to release the voice as update. I think someone has found the way to flash mylanguage.VPM to the eprom or to clone the entire eprom. This is what i am looking for, and I want to share this for free with all Wingers all over the Europe, because a very high number of bike in EU come from USA.
    I hope to see you in Brignoles, my road name is Charlie from GWCI.

    @kunix, the guy is located in the N/E of Italy and sells this mod via the two biggest italian resellers. May be he is not a professional. I don'know.
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    I don't understand why Neil was talking about voices saved inside region 0x11, probably it's a standard region for these purposes. But after looking at the firmware linked in the first post I can definitely say that it reads regions 0x11 and 0x13 and verifies if they start with "AUDIMG" or "AUDPKG". So, yes, region 0x11 most probably contains some voice data.
    If we want to use localized Honda Goldwing 2006-2008 firmwares we could make them ourselves (which is lots of PITA), or we could dump that 360€ firmware mod. Personally I prefer the latter way.
    So I will try to make a specially patched (update.txt is not supported, so I would have to add this functionality) boot.bin which would dump (when executed as a part of GCD file) a few first megabytes of all readable regions to files, which could be later flashed to other devices. It's not so dangerous as it may sound, guys, as Honda Goldwing 2006-2008's boot.bin doesn't flash the bootloader, so it can't actually screw anything up.

    It would be great if someone here were able to find a guy with that 360€ mod willing to participate.
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    Just to be sure I've understand, you can write a code to be included in boot.bin, included in gupdate.gcd, and this code can dump (part of) the regions of the eprom that probably contain the voice. WOW!
    Quote Originally Posted by kunix View Post
    It would be great if someone here were able to find a guy with that 360€ mod willing to participate.
    This guy already has the solution and I think he's only waiting the riding season fully open for selling a lot of this mod. As you can gather from the last five letters of my nick this is not my point of view. May be it's not necessary to have this 360€ mod if we can have a full European model for dumping the original regions. In this case I must to be sure I don't damage the bike of my friend not to be slaughtered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kunix View Post
    I don't understand why Neil was talking about voices saved inside region 0x11, probably it's a standard region for these purposes. But after looking at the firmware linked in the first post I can definitely say that it reads regions 0x11 and 0x13 and verifies if they start with "AUDIMG" or "AUDPKG". So, yes, region 0x11 most probably contains some voice data.......
    LOL! You don't understand how i could possibly know that? That's a 'back-handed compliment' to which i take absolutely no offence. No, i haven't suddenly become fw savvy overnight Kunix and the simple explanation is i was guessing, hence the '?'. My knowledge of fw is still as shallow as the statement 'the cheque is in the mail'. I don't even have access to a GW presently. My interest here is somewhat academic as i've said before, because of the way US fw V4.50 & 4.60 allows the GW Navis to use NT maps and because i believe/hope there may be a hw relationship between 26xx SPs and the GW units which will allow a fw mod to similarly enable the SPs to break free of non-NT legacy maps.

    There was a language pack issued by Garmin for the 26xx series and it loads 7,857,408 bytes to region 11. The D0158_220.rgn uses the boot.bin from V4.40. Maybe it will be of use to you, if so here's the zipped exe: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. I really haven't a clue what it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlinux View Post
    Just to be sure I've understand, you can write a code to be included in boot.bin, included in gupdate.gcd, and this code can dump (part of) the regions of the eprom that probably contain the voice. WOW!
    Yes, I can do it. I'm doing it for almost 4 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by carlinux View Post
    This guy already has the solution and I think he's only waiting the riding season fully open for selling a lot of this mod. As you can gather from the last five letters of my nick this is not my point of view. May be it's not necessary to have this 360€ mod if we can have a full European model for dumping the original regions. In this case I must to be sure I don't damage the bike of my friend not to be slaughtered.
    I wasn't talking about the mod guy. He is not willing to participate obviously I was talking about any user of his mod. We can also try dumping European models, I don't mind. Probably, with exactly the same boot.bin after changing its HWID.
    As long as we don't flash any regions (GCD with just boot.bin inside would suffice in this case, as it doesn't flash region 5, unlike most modern nuvis) and we're able to remove GCD file (we can remove CF card), it's not dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    LOL! You don't understand how i could possibly know that? That's a 'back-handed compliment' to which i take absolutely no offence.
    No compliments intended I just haven't seen that region 0x11 before, so I was surprised. Now your explanation made me understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    I hope for your sake kunix finds the time [maybe then he'll feel obliged to help me too.]
    I would have to finish that 37xx firmware decompressor first
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    Quote Originally Posted by kunix View Post
    No compliments intended I just haven't seen that region 0x11 before, so I was surprised. Now your explanation made me understand.
    A 'back-handed compliment' is a somewhere between a compliment and insult in colloquial English. I shouldn't use obscure terms on an international forum (and i was joking anyway).

    I would have to finish that 37xx firmware decompressor first
    Everything in its time naturally.
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