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    Quote Originally Posted by quebec001 View Post
    .... on guy said me not want working ?
    works well on pc without preview version and on my monterra
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergio2 View Post
    I have got a Montana. Why ?

    After transferring MapSource unlocked map to Montana (on a 8 Gb microSD card), new generated .img file was locked.

    I used gimgunlock.exe file to unlock the map on Montana, and map is well displayed although it slightly overtakes the FAT limit weight (4,1 Go).
    Quote Originally Posted by quebec001 View Post
    I asked you just for the sience! Montana working big file and all name map renamed by you!
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    Actually, it's the 'science' which is the confusion here because sometimes we mean binary when we're actually talking decimal. The eternal problem is what is a 'gigabyte'? [abbreviation variously used Go, gig, Gb but correctly GB] It's partly solved by using the correct term. If we mean in decimal [value of 1000] then the now mostly accepted term is gigabyte [GB], and in binary value of 1024 it's gibibyte [GiB]. But a certain big player in the PC world isn't having that.

    quebec001 has used the abbreviation of 'gig' to describe the size of his 'big' and 'small' images in Post #1 as '3.8 gig' and '1.98 gig' respectively. He means 'GiB' i'm sure as those images don't exceed the FAT32 and FAT16 file size limits of 4 GiB and 2 GiB respectively [less 1 byte each].

    sergio2 has used the abbreviation of 'Go' [GB] for his comment that at 4,1 Go "it slightly overtakes the FAT limit" but "is well displayed". That's partly correct, in that 4.1 gigabytes in decimal is ~4,100,000,000 bytes which expressed as binary is 3.8 gibibytes and the reason it's displayed on the unit in an 8'GB' card is that it doesn't exceed the FAT32 file size limit at all [that limit is 4,294,967,295 bytes]. However it's too big to fit on a 4'GB' card, which is already less than 4,000,000,000 bytes because a bit of space is used by the manufacturer for hard-coded information.

    Historically the terms kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, terabyte etc were binary [value 1024] whereas now they're usually decimal [value 1000]. While the manufacturers of flash and hard drives have embraced the change [in fact they started it] MicroSoft is clinging to the past and insists that gigabyte means binary. So when you check 2 or 4 'GB' microSD in a reader attached to a PC the properties show this:

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    And that's why an image just under the FAT16/FAT32 limits of 2,147,483,647 bytes/4,294,967,295 bytes won't fit on a 2'GB' or 4'GB' card respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quebec001 View Post
    I had a PM from a guy he used to unlock toolkit, it create a map for its oregon, oregon but in his, he got the message: UNABLE TO UNLOCK THE CARDS! so I told him to 'gimgunlock.exe used for its gmapsupp.img!
    curious toolkit that does not make img create unlocked after toolkit?
    SHI.... i remember one think, i am sure à 98% this guy que ce gars n'a pas remplacé le fichier mapsource.exe patched or similar for basecamp? ill ask him

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    Hi,

    Same for me !
    I unlocked map in MapSource with Unlock MapSource Directory, then I created the .img file from map installed in MapSurce, and strangely I had to unlock it again with gimgunlock.exe.

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    I think "Unlock Mapsource Directory" will only unlock the tdb file, that's enough for Mapsource to open a map, after exporting a mapset you still have to unlock the img because the individual map-tiles are still locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperoni View Post
    I think "Unlock Mapsource Directory" will only unlock the tdb file, that's enough for Mapsource to open a map, after exporting a mapset you still have to unlock the img because the individual map-tiles are still locked.
    thanks!
    but:
    Well, I thought if it was written Adult Lock impossible that all the map create thereafter was not locked .
    Ex: in the past when the Garmin_kgen_1.5 for my gps, although from City Navigator north america 2010.20 (mapsource need pacth after 2010,20 and more) if was not patched, I was not focntionnel img,.
    for what is right for mapsource, I have a valid key, and any mapsource work, patched mapsource is that the Garmin_kgen_1.5 works well for img
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    Much as I love MapSource, we have to accept that using it to compile map images makes us the Garmin Amish. It's fast becoming a 'horse & buggy' type of technology for that purpose unfortunately. Probably will cause no problems with this map, but for modern big CNs it's a no-no. Garmin desktop app developer FALAGAR warns against using it because MS compiles img files quite differently to the way MapInstall does with modern PC install versions [gmap folders].
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    For a down-to-earth explanation of unlock problems encountered and how they can be overcome, read the excellent precis by Ballebar in Post #2 here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. The thread is three and a half years old now, but the comparison and drawbacks in using MS over BC/MI are still very relevant [and even more so] so i've updated some of the links in his post to point to the newer unlockers and current software threads.

    To understand the difference between unlocking the entire gmap folder [Not Lockable status] or just the single tbd file in the Product1 folder [Unlocked/Unauthenticated status] to produce a locked image read this thread: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. The latter is the effective equivalent of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] when using a patched MS exe version. Running an unlocker like [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in the gmap or family folder will fully unlock it so as to produce an unlocked image from MS or MI.
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    I did some tests with Garmin1450 on GPS. Routable my eye. It really draws the shortest path as using the highway exits in reverse. Uses the one-way streets in reverse. No address in the database, then that version of the Topo Canada them all.

    I'm disappointed.

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    Whom that surprises? A Topo map is not made for car navigation! It is made for outdoor activities like biking, hiking, geocaching etc.

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    I agree with p!xeldealer 100%. You have no cause to be disappointed. I've had topos want to route me the wrong way on roundabouts [traffic circles] but I'd expect that sort of idiosyncrasy when using them for the wrong purpose. Horses for courses. You shouldn't expect a CN to be any good in the scrub on trails and you certainly shouldn't expect a topo to be any more than an emergency tool on-road even if it is 'routable'.
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