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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Big-Shot is correct. 3490, 359x, 259x etc [the 2012 & 2013 nuvi series] use the exact same files so no need to 'adapt' them, the 3597 files will work in all. Just copy & paste to correct folder. Remove old files remaining from previous map versions. Note: Although the 2012 and 2013 series use different TTS voice files, the Automatic Speech Recognition files are common to both.

    Those files in Post #6 are the map-related files for this version. To enable different languages for speech recognition, you also need to have the correct *.srd file in the unit's .System/ASR folder [srd files must remain in unit memory, other ASR files can go in a separate ASR folder in the microSD's Garmin folder if you want to save space on the unit]. For example if you want to use AU English voices Karen and Lee, you must have en_AU.srd on your unit. Or en_GB.srd, en_US.srd for the corresponding TTS British/UK and US voices. Same with Spanish, es_ES.srd and es_US.srd etc. These are not required to be changed with each map version as are the map-related files, but you should dl the latest versions using WebUpdater or GarminExpress. My NA 3597 is not offered any Portuguese SRD files though.
    Well placed Neil, but unfortunately the voice command for Portuguese Br works only in the 3597 officially sold in Brazil. Due to some special identifier, it is the only device that can download the necessary files for the voice command function, also why even the european or NA 3597 don't work with that language. But this problem was easy to solve for 3597 and intermediate series (24, 25x7 ) imported: sufficed just copy the map- related files more the pt_BR.srd file along with the corresponding map to work properly. The challenge is to make the voice command works in the 2012 series (34xx, 35x0, 2xx5). Simply copy the files from the 3597 Br not work. The main obstacle is the TTS voice of the 2013 series, which is incompatible with the 2012 series. Anyone who has ever tried with the new TTS, don't like the result : total crash and need use of "cure" fw. The version of TTS has direct and necessary relation with the glx files of language, which in the new version has different formatting. Only match the part number of them with the TTS in use is a simplistic solution that seems also not solve. Perhaps a deeper editionin text files, probably the only possible, since amendments in TTS files is a possibility something complicated, that I know.
    Maybe some input specifies in the firmware of part numbers , or both measures , complicated way..
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    Angelo, the ASR files [*.asr & *.srd map files, and en_US.srd] from my 3597LM US unit work fine in my 3590/3490/2595 AU units with unlocked NA map. But i didn't persevere in trying to use TTS3 on them, TTS3 will not work in any series before 2013 and will crash them as you point out, although i didn't brick any unit.

    However, everything works normally using ASR files from my 3597 in the ASR capable 2012 models with TTS2. Unless something is different in BR to AU localisation or i've misunderstood you, my experience is that it's simply not a problem to use the asr files from 2013 series in 2012 series provided you only use TTS2. If your plan is to continue trying to get TTS3 working on 2012 series i'm happy to help you with testing, just PM me.

    I note the concern with pt_BR.srd not being offered to non-BR localised units, my 3597LM US was not offered Karen or Lee in TTS3 or au_EN.srd either at first but with later fw they're now offered. However, I initially obtained the AU TTS3 voices and srd from other sources and they worked no problem on the US localised unit.
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    Neil, better analyzing your information accurate, I can deduce that the key seems to be the .srd files, since the ASR and SRX are those related to the map and are the same used in 2012 (34, 35xx . .) devices using the voice command. So would be the case of studying the file pt_br.srd and find ways to match it with their text files and voice TTS2, to enable voice command. Analyzing this and other .srd files noticed that they have a complex structure, most likely encrypted that I could not decipher, perhaps Kunix, Alexander or other specialist can.
    So it seems to me that the most feasible way, as I mentioned earlier, is to match the TTS3 in devices 2012. The cause of the crash in our attempts was most likely due to conflict between the TTS3 file and the glx corresponding to the TTS2, reminding that the glx3 singly also cause crash because the inputs are incompatible with firmware 2012. The glx are more easier to handle and maybe that way, laborious but not complicated apparently, for to match the TTS3. So there would be full compatibility between .srd, glx and vpm with voice command.
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    Sorry, i wasn't disagreeing with you Angelo and in fact i'm certain you're on to something. As stated i'm happy to help privately by PM exchange, but on reflection it's better publicly in a thread dedicated to modding the files to enable TTS3 voices in 2012 series. That way we can get others like kunix and Alex interested as you mentioned and Loly too because i know he already has an interest. He and i did some initial work together privately on enabling ALG and TTS3 on 3590. Goodness know what progress has already been made in the Eastern Bloc that we're unaware off.

    You should start a thread mate, 'coz it's your idea about the files interaction. I'll gladly help as much as possible in my usual clumsy way [with testing at the very least ....].
    Continuing here in Maps would be OT and maybe not get noticed properly anyway.
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    I got a nuvi 2597 (6gb european version) factory map: "C.N EUROPE 2013.40".
    Im using the nuvi here at my country (argentina) i have deleted european map. A few days ago i tried this C.N S.A 2014.30 (the full unlocked img) together with the srx and asr files from this very same version and i thought that finally i will be able to have access to searches by address with voice activation but NO... the message still says "this function is not available for argentina in spanish".
    I only can search with voice activation as always... by POI, Recent locations and Saved Locations.

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    If you are using Javier or Paulina voice you will need es_US.srd in the ASR folder of .System.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-Shot View Post
    Yburic I think the files are the same, test to see if it will work on your Nuvi 3490
    Big-Shot,

    I copied the files but they did not work.

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    There are so many files that I'm confused ... What are needed for 2595 and 1490?
    Would map, 3d, jcv and G2S?

    thank you

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    You can check what files your 2 units use by checking the GarminDevice.xml in hidden .System folder. You could search Garmin site to find specifications but that won't tell which specific files you need:

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    Hint: neither display 3D buildings or use G2S [but 2595 uses SID which are related], both use JCV and 2595 uses ASR2 files for Speech Recognition. Have a look at catymag's Post #2, that will get you sorted.
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    I need the file pt_BR.srd(I do not have the memory, because my 2595 is not the model ltm, ie, must enable the voice command modifying it), but I can not find ... Does anyone have a link for download?

    Thanks

 

 
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