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    Hi Neil,

    I want to know why people are using installation and unlocked the image using the unlocker comparing just use the unlocked image? Could you please tell the reason why there's image installation.exe while we can use unlocked image directly? Thank you.

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    Well, to be frank, the ppl who dl from here are probably not using 'installation' in that they're running the *.exe because if you do that and the connected unit is not one that's entitled to the update, the self-extracting exe will only go so far before it realises the wrong unit is connected:

    1p4o 1np3

    So if you have the *.exe, you simply extract it manually to find the MapData folder and in it the locked gmapprom.img together with ancillary files needed for the particular unit depending on the 'type'. The advantage in doing that is not only do you get the extra files, but you can unlock the map yourself so you know it's done correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenovoman View Post
    Hi Neil,

    I want to know why people are using installation and unlocked the image using the unlocker comparing just use the unlocked image? Could you please tell the reason why there's image installation.exe while we can use unlocked image directly? Thank you.
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    Hallo all, i have few question

    - Can i add this map to StreetPilot 2610/2720 ?
    - Is there any tutorial to change Original North American map to this Indonesia Map (i "bought" it from US eb*y)

    Thanks in advance

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    @Neil: Thank you for your explanation. So, the unlocked image would be good for all devices type while for locked image, I need to provide with "ancillary files needed for the particular unit depending on the 'type'" as you mentioned? So, for most users that would like simple idea or especially for newbie, they would use unlocked image?
    @Paramas: thank you for your comment. Got both side point of views

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbajing_deh View Post
    Hallo all, i have few question

    - Can i add this map to StreetPilot 2610/2720 ?
    - Is there any tutorial to change Original North American map to this Indonesia Map (i "bought" it from US eb*y)

    Thanks in advance
    Although externally physically similar, they are quite different units so it depends which one you have, or maybe you mean have one of each. The main differences:

    1. StreetPilot 2610 can't use NT maps such as this ID NT 2013.30 and is limited to old outdated Garmin non-NT maps [if available] or third party maps such as OSM.

    2. The 2720 is NT capable and can use the latest Garmin maps, subject to memory space limitations.

    3. 2610 is easier to update because the detail map is stored on a CompactFlash card. I think it is only capable of using 2 GB max. size card though. It is a simple matter to change the detail map by adding your compatible map named gmapsupp.img to a Garmin folder in the root of the card. You can just swap out cards if you want to keep the original map and use the same card, either back it up and delete it, or just rename the original map and add the new one on the same card.

    4. 2720 has no media card slot and updating the maps was normally done using MapSource. I'm not 100% sure if BaseCamp/MapInstall will also work with it but i assume so. It is also possible to send an image named as gmapsupp.img to the internal memory using a *.bat file to overwrite the current detail map. There's a Tut thread here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Simplest method is in Post #3. Check the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for using MS and BC/MI. Using the bat file method with the map named as gmapprom.img, your original detail map will be destroyed because it'll be overwritten. You may be able to preserve it by sending the new another detail map as gmapsupp.img if you have room on the internal memory. If you need to replace the basemap in either 2610 and/or 2720 because it doesn't cover ID, you maybe can send it using the bat file as gmapbmap.img to overwrite the US loaded Americas/Pacific base map.

    Quote Originally Posted by lenovoman View Post
    @Neil: Thank you for your explanation. So, the unlocked image would be good for all devices type while for locked image, I need to provide with "ancillary files needed for the particular unit depending on the 'type'" as you mentioned? So, for most users that would like simple idea or especially for newbie, they would use unlocked image?
    @Paramas: thank you for your comment. Got both side point of views
    You still haven't said what unit you have but if it doesn't use the other files or you don't want them, then yes, just take the unlocked image because any NT capable device can read it [that's all modern units since about 2007 i think].
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Although externally physically similar, they are quite different units so it depends which one you have, or maybe you mean have one of each. The main differences:

    1 StreetPilot 2610 can't use NT maps such as this ID NT 2013.30 and is limited to old outdated Garmin non-NT maps [if available] or third party maps such as OSM.

    2. The 2720 is NT capable and can use the latest Garmin maps, subject to memory space limitations.

    3. 2610 is easier to update because the detail map is stored on a CompactFlash card. I think it is only capable of using 2 GB max. size card though. It is a simple matter to change the detail map by adding your compatible map named gmapsupp.img to a Garmin folder in the root of the card. You can just swap out cards if you want to keep the original map and use the same card, either back it up and delete it, or just rename the original map and add the new one on the same card.

    4. 2720 has no media card slot and updating the maps was normally done using MapSource. I'm not 100% sure if BaseCamp/MapInstall will also work with it but i assume so. It is also possible to send an image named as gmapsupp.img to the internal memory using a *.bat file to overwrite the current detail map. There's a Tut thread here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Simplest method is in Post #3. Check the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for using MS and BC/MI. Using the bat file method with the map named as gmapprom.img, your original detail map will be destroyed because it'll be overwritten. You may be able to preserve it by sending the new another detail map as gmapsupp.img if you have room on the internal memory. If you need to replace the basemap in either 2610 and/or 2720 because it doesn't cover ID, you maybe can send it using the bat file as gmapbmap.img to overwrite the US loaded Americas/Pacific base map.
    Thank for your reply
    honeslty i still hunt both off them on eb*y

    1 & 3. what the lastest non-NT Version for ID ?
    How much the difference between the old and the new map ? it is just interface ?
    I like this 2610 because it can use AAA bettery which can be handy.


    2 & 4. Again thanks, those link is perfect. Still have to read all about MapSource

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    This is OT here so if you need any more info after this i'll move our posts to a new thread in Discussions.

    Last Garmin non-NT for ID? I have no idea, but the latest Garmin released for for EU, NA & AU was 2009 so i guess you're not going to find anything after than anyway. But as I said, it can read 3rd party maps which will be more up to date than Garmin's non-NT for sure.

    Apart from the technical differences in the way the Garmin NT and non-NT maps are compiled, the big difference is really in the map data itself. Old maps mean missing roads and features. Non-NT 2009 for AU is near to useless in the cities [the map data is from May 2008]. I use OSM maps in my 2610 [but i only use it for fun occasionally]. Have a look in the Asia Map Index for what's available: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

    But you may be disappointed to learn that the 2610 doesn't use batteries. It is externally powered only by 12 volt DC. Perhaps you've read about batteries for the remote control, it uses 2 x AAA batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    This is OT here so if you need any more info after this i'll move our posts to a new thread in Discussions.

    Last Garmin non-NT for ID? I have no idea, but the latest Garmin released for for EU, NA & AU was 2009 so i guess you're not going to find anything after than anyway. But as I said, it can read 3rd party maps which will be more up to date than Garmin's non-NT for sure.

    Apart from the technical differences in the way the Garmin NT and non-NT maps are compiled, the big difference is really in the map data itself. Old maps mean missing roads and features. Non-NT 2009 for AU is near to useless in the cities [the map data is from May 2008]. I use OSM maps in my 2610 [but i only use it for fun occasionally]. Have a look in the Asia Map Index for what's available: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

    But you may be disappointed to learn that the 2610 doesn't use batteries. It is externally powered only by 12 volt DC. Perhaps you've read about batteries for the remote control, it uses 2 x AAA batteries.
    For now, i think not need
    i will build a new discussion if those GPS already in my hand

    So those 2610 can use 3rd party too, awesome
    Im glad landed in perfect forum

    about battery, my mistake i did not read manual completely :D
    sorry if my post to many off topic
    Thank you very much

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