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    @capn: Thanks for the effort, but not to the point where, were I you, I'd trust me to get the PRC25 back up and running after being hacked by Charles (please excuse the obscure Viet Nam metaphor). As an example, Chicago is listed as part of the NT set AND the MMR set. I am learning thanks to the patience of many; just not as quickly as I'd like and never to the point where I would desire...This lock/unlock data is not as easy as duck soup!
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    LOL! I get the metaphor [not so obscure to me].

    Firstly, there are two 'types' of hacked/modified cityXplorer maps available in Post #1, the full CX [Standalone, so needs no separate CN loaded] and the small CX [no CN content] which must be used with a CN of the same version. Then there is yet another 'type', the official CX sold by Garmin which are available as individual maps for just one city. They are available in the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] also, but some haven't had the MMR components changed to FID 800, and because that original FID remains they are useless for Enhanced Pedestrian use in 37x0 and later devices [2011>]. Some of the original type such as Amsterdam have both versions, with FID 2419 unchanged for MMR, and the modded one with MMR FID 800.

    Starting to get it?

    Now, look at the GMapTool log in Post #4 for all the NA cities [Full/Standalone]. The individual cities have been combined into one big map, the NT [normal CN map] components have been unlocked and the MMR [EPM components] have had their FID changed to 800 so that with an appropriate unlock file they will work in all units supporting EPM including 37x0> devices.

    Look at the second GMapTool log in Post #8. It shows the Small version which has no CN NT parts so must be teamed with the same version of the NA CityNavigator map to work, and again the MMR parts have had their FID changed to 800.

    Finally, look at the 1st log in Post #8, it shows an official untouched version of London, all FIDs including the MMR are still 2969.

    So, everything starts of course with the original single city official CXs.
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    Now, in summary if you've now got you head around things: Think of the standalone CXs as having 2 main 'bits': (i) CN NT which can be unlocked by an unlocker and (ii) MMR EPM which can only be unlocked for a particular device by a valid unlock code in a *.unl file whether that's the original FID or 800.
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    @axxtw
    To take a short detour back to basics, because if you're confused as to the basics Neil's in-depth explanations will just continue to befuddle

    Think of the City Explorer enhanced pedestrian data (the MMR data) as an overlay -- the bus routes aren't much use without an underlying street map to put them in context.

    The CX (small) is just the overlays - the MMR data. It requires the matching street map (City Navigator) to be of any use (or even function).

    The CX (full) is both the overlays and the underlying street map (taken from CN).

    So in the CX (full) you're working with there is an NT section for Chicago -- that's the same piece of street map that City Navigator uses to show Chicago.
    Then there's also an MMR section for Chicago -- that's the enhanced pedestrian mode data for Chicago, useless without the underlying (and matching) street map (NT section).

    That's why Chicago is listed twice -- you have both the Chicago street map (NT) and the Chicago pedestrian data (MMR), and both are needed for the pedestrian data to be used.

    Hopefully that will help put the unlocking requirements and the difference between CN, CX-small, and CX-full in a better context.

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    @capn
    Post 8 explained it fully for me. The other explanations above by both you and Neil are just saying the same things but in different words as far as I can tell. Simple really, the basics:

    1) Full Standalone CX doesn't need a separate City Navigator on the nuvi but a Small CX does

    2) Enhanced Pedestrian Mode only works if the MMR has an unlock code because it can't be unlocked any other way

    That's the "Must Knows/Should Knows"... the rest is "Could Knows" or "Who Gives A Toss" so if a user understands 1 & 2 the rest is just fancy footwork......

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    Quote Originally Posted by axxxtw View Post
    @capn: Question: I get a walking route which can include busses on the Nuvi 1300: I get no "EL" or METRA stops; just busses. (In fact when my starting point was the Wilmette, IL Linden CTA station I was only permitted to take the Purple line "EL" into the city and then had to bus it to Midway Airport. The correct route is Linden Purple Express to the City and then Orange line (EL) all the way to Midway....no busses. Are you getting "EL" and METRA stops?
    Short answer: Limited EL, no METRA, but the whole setup was surprisingly buggy

    I finally confiscated one of the family GPS's long enough to look at this.
    As it happened the GPS had CN NA 2014.10 loaded - an unlocked IMG from here.

    I couldn't get either the full CX or small CX img to work properly with it -- CX was recognized ('Powered by CityXplorer"), but calculating a Public Transportation route invariably hung up, freezing at 60-80%.

    Eventually I installed a new img, built with MapInstall from the CN NA gmap.

    The full CX wasn't recognized, but the small CX was - and worked.

    Buses worked well, but not trains.
    I disabled buses and tried routes from Evanston to the Loop.
    It only used the Red Line from Berwyn south (about 5 miles from city center) -- It suggested walking 5 miles south to Berwyn, then catching the EL :-)

    I never got it to use METRA.

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    Hi, Sorry I posted in a wrong thread. Will cityXploerer work on iphone? I installed 2014.10 cxna full but not wotking on my iphone? any help?
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    Do you mean will CX maps work in StreetPilot for iPhone? Certainly 'Urban Guidance' will work, which has cityXplorer features but it's an in-app purchase:
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    May be better to ask in this thread:
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    I really enjoyed these CX maps for planning trips into the city in New York and Boston. Has anyone been able to get the CityXplorers to work after doing the map 2015.1 map update ? I can only get this to work if no maps newer than 2014.10 were loaded on the GPS. Any workaround for this issue with newer maps?

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    New links in starting post as requested by report button.
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