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    Quote Originally Posted by virgilino View Post
    I am planning on buying my first GPS unit, mainly for tracing roads to contribute to OpenStreetMap and for geocaching, especially hiding them. I wanted a unit with good reception even deep in the woods and that I could plug in my laptop and mark waypoints from the computer (from what I understood I woud need a unit with a serial interface and NMEA support; is it possible to be done with USB?).
    Sorry for my long post, it's because is going to be your first gps unit!
    - You can trace roads with ANY "on the trail" handheld Garmin device, the device records your position as you walk or drive with a user specified step (distance or time or both-AUTO). The faster you move the more accurate the trace.
    Your traces are saved as Track Logs in GPX format and you can download them to your PC (Mapsource or Basecamp program).
    I use a 60csx for tracing and reporting new roads or changes to Here (my wife use it too as a landscape architect).
    - Hiding geocaches is very easy with ANY "on the trail" handheld Garmin device, you just want to mark your location, save it as a user waypoint on the device and then download them on your PC (Mapsource or Basecamp program) and post them.
    Finding geocaches is much more user friendly with "newer" devices like 62, 64 or eTrex 25 Touch.
    - I never had problems with 60csx under thick foliage in the woods, or with a 64st that I've tried. That doesn't mean that I had the same signal as if I 've been under clear sky. The biggest problem is in deep gorges with steep sides that leave you with a very limited view of the sky and it's location-day-time dependent if your device can "see" ...5,4,3,2,1 or no satellites at all.
    - To transfer your traces or waypoints (or maps or POIs or custom POIs icons) to and from a PC requires only a USB cable, not serial, and you'll need NMEA only if you want to connect your device to a laptop and a navigation program to use your device as an "gps antenna"!

    Quote Originally Posted by virgilino View Post
    First, I considered Garmin eTrex 10 for being the cheapest, but it seemed to be too basic and not practical to use because of not having many buttons (am I talking nonsense?); besides, not having an antenna like some other more advanced models makes it feel like its not as precise or powerful (again, is this nonsense?). But something like a GPSMap 64st is too expensive for my budget. So I went to look for used GPS units in a classifieds site, and I found a deal on a "like new" GPSMap 60Cx, that apparently was used just two times and in a boat. I would pay basically half of what I would pay in a new 64s or a third of a 64st, and not much more than on a new eTrex 10. It seems to be in a very good to perfect condition, and to be a good device—I only read good reviews. And, from what I saw in some comparison charts, in terms of specifications, it is not that much inferior to a current model like 64s.

    What I wonder is: is it worth buying a device that is so old? I mean, this model has like 10 years now, right? Will I be missing too much? How much time is it supposed to last?
    eTex10 is the perfect present to give to someone to ...hate you Just forget it!!!
    I own a 60csx and after all those years I still love it, it's like s Swiss knife that can do many things and get you out of difficult situations.
    But as all lovers do, it also drives me crazy when I compare it to newer devices.
    - First and most annoying (both with 62 and 62 models) is that typing the name of something needs at least 20-30 clicks of the rocker, so when I'm a trail I just can't mark 50 waypoints and enter all 50 names, stopping to play with the rocker. After sometime I was just typing names like 001, 002, 003,... and later at home rename them properly on my PC.
    - Nowadays I'm very jealous of the newer devices because I can't enjoy 3D terrain view or custom raster maps or BirdEye maps that transform a device to something like Google Earth with satellite's photos, with garmin roads on top of the photos!

    IMHO when you start playing with a Garmin you will want more and more, more maps, more waypoints and tracks, more custom POIs, more icons etc and if you are an outdoor person it's like a disease, there are so many things you can do with Garmins, both on the trail and at home!
    If you buy now a "so old" (but still VERY capable device) you are going to miss this "more and more" excitement!!!
    If I were you, now and for the future, I would take a careful look at the new eTrex 25 Touch that has the more user friendly GUI like 62 and 64 have and most of their features.

    All 4 devices have the same screen size and resolution, the 3 new have better colors, easier GUI, 3D Terrain, custom maps and Birdseye maps and more memory to play with.
    But Etrex 25 Touch has a touch screen so you can use it as a smartphone!
    At present time if I wanted something not expensive, I would buy an Etrex 25 Touch (found it in Amazon.com at $204.97) so that I could enjoy all the modern features of Garmin, (especially typing) in a smaller and lighter package!

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    I noticed you guys are talking about the 60 Csx, but the one I found used and that I am considering buying is the one without the sensors, the 60 Cx. Is it still as good in terms of reliability as the 60 Csx?

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    The letter S in the 60CSx model number indicates that it has a barometric altimeter. I am sure it is just as reliable without it. The barometric altimeter really only gives you a little more accurate in tracking an elevation change. A starting/calibration elevation point can be entered from a know elevation or it takes it (at the start of a track) from a calculated elevation hopefully from many satellites for accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virgilino View Post
    I noticed you guys are talking about the 60 Csx, but the one I found used and that I am considering buying is the one without the sensors, the 60 Cx. Is it still as good in terms of reliability as the 60 Csx?
    There are no any difference between CSx and Cx absolutely!!! Moreover Cx have a lack of one or two chip (for magnetic compass and altimeter) and so it is more reliable and energy effective
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